MX-21 KDE/plasma beta 2 feedback thread

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Re: MX-21 KDE/plasma beta 2 feedback thread

#141 Post by computerworm01001 »

Hello all,

I've tried the XFCE and KDE beta2 isos. I liked the KDE one so much, that I've been using it as my primary system for the past week or so. I will list here all of the improvements and bugs I have encountered in KDE beta2. I don't know which bugs are caused by KDE devs, which by Debian, and which by MX, so I'll just lay out everything I've observed and let you all figure it out. :smiley:

Improvements:

1. Better external monitor detection. In MX-19.4, when I booted from Live USB, the first thing I had to do was open System Settings and turn off my laptop panel to make my external monitor the main display. In MX-21, my external monitor is already detected as being primary on first boot.


2. Picture of the Day actually works (sort of) in MX-21. In MX-19.4 PIcture of the Day was present but nonfunctional. In MX-21, half of the picture providers work. The ones that don't are Flickr, National Geographic, NOAA, and Wikimedia Commons.

Bugs:

1. Plasma randomly freezes - it's an easy fix; just enable the compositor, but still, it seemed like something you should be made aware of.


2. Changing default directories under System Settings > Locations doesn't do anything and I have to manually edit the sidebar shortcuts in Dolphin by right-clicking them and selecting "Edit". And yes, I did try logging out and logging back in, with no effect.


3. Network always disconnects after suspending from Plasma power buttons and doesn't automatically reconnect - have to reconnect manually. This glitch does not happen when I suspend using rtcwake or pm-suspend. Sometimes it also fails to automatically connect directly after boot, with no apparent rationale behind it.


4. I don't like sudo, I prefer doas, but plasma-desktop depends on kde-cli-tools, which depends on libkf5su5, which depends on sudo, therefore I have both doas and sudo installed - but it shouldn't have to be that way - doas should just be a drop-in replacement for the sudo dependency.


5. When I click the close button, Kaffeine asks multiple times whether I want to quit, because there are pending recordings, and I have to click yes 2 or sometimes 3 times - isn't 1 confirmation enough?


6. When creating system snapshot, MX Snapshot creates "minstall.desktop" shortcut on Desktop of currently running system.


7. When using autologin, it logs in once, then after a few seconds logs out and logs in again. I found another post on this thread where an MX dev explained that X restarts because of a special MX fix for making the SDDM power buttons work in SysVinit, and that most people should barely see a flash. And when I login manually, I don't notice X restarting at all. I only see it when I use autologin.


8. Autologin doesn't work when laptop is not plugged in - computer goes to sleep before having a chance to login, I have to plug it in and wake it in order for autologin to work. I'm not sure whether or not this has anything to do with the fact that my laptop's lid is always closed because I use an external monitor. It might work differently if the lid were open/if there were no external monitor, but I haven't had the motivation to test that hypothesis, and anyway I think it needs to just work regardless of what monitor setup the end user has . . .


9. Removable devices will mount with Device Notifier only under first user account created. Subsequently created accounts do not have permission to mount with Device Notifier. I also tried mounting the USB drive from the Dolphin interface, and got a more verbose error message:

"An error occurred while accessing 'USB_DRIVE', the system responded: An unspecified error has occurred: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."


10. This is not specifically a KDE bug, but it is an MX beta2 bug; I tried the new Job Scheduler app, and I got these strange errors when I attempted to save my crontab edits, and for the record, I double checked my crontab syntax, and there was nothing wrong with it, so I don't know why the errors are raised:

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CronTime::CronTime Invalid Minute Format: "*/"
File Saved : "/tmp/job-scheduler-root/root.HOGeqD"
File Saved : "/tmp/job-scheduler-root/root.QBOcfa"
CronTime::CronTime Invalid Item count: 1
CronTime::CronTime Invalid Item count: 2
CronTime::CronTime Invalid Item count: 2
CronTime::CronTime Invalid Item count: 3
CronTime::CronTime Invalid Item count: 3
CronTime::CronTime Invalid Item count: 4
CronTime::CronTime Invalid Item count: 4
CronTime::CronTime Invalid Week Format: ""
File Saved : "/tmp/job-scheduler-root/root.oWJviK"
11. This may or may not tie in with the previous error, but the root crontab doesn't work. I know my syntax is correct because I entered the same commands in my personal user crontab (appending doas to the beginning, of course) and it works perfectly. So there's something wrong with the root crontab, and I don't know what it is.

So those are all the foibles of note that I've found so far. If I find anymore, I will update this post. The bugs are more numerous as opposed to XFCE, and when I used MX-19 I was a diehard XFCE fan. But in MX-21 the single factor that throws the game in Plasma's favor for me is XFCE 4.16's horrendous implementation of CSD, and MX's suboptimal implementation of turning off CSD, but I'll write more about all that in the XFCE beta2 thread.

I will close out my laundry list of complaints by saying that although it's a long list, it is that way not because I disdain MX Linux and am looking to nitpick. Rather it's because I love MX Linux very much, and although I don't know how to code, I want to help make the distro better in any way I can. I have a lot of respect for the MX devs and the work they do, without payment, just because they love FOSS software and want to help people make better use of their computers. I send all my love to dolphin_oracle, Adrian, SwampRabbit, and all the rest of the MX developers.

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Re: MX-21 KDE/plasma beta 2 feedback thread

#142 Post by Adrian »

I send all my love to dolphin_oracle, Adrian, SwampRabbit, and all the rest of the MX developers.
A good bug report is showing love :)

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#143 Post by Adrian »

7. When using autologin, it logs in once, then after a few seconds logs out and logs in again. I found another post on this thread where an MX dev explained that X restarts because of a special MX fix for making the SDDM power buttons work in SysVinit, and that most people should barely see a flash. And when I login manually, I don't notice X restarting at all. I only see it when I use autologin.
I tried that multiple times, I can't replicate the issue. I think we removed the SDDM fix so that should not play a role. Do you have Beta2 or updated Beta1 to Beta2?
8. Autologin doesn't work when laptop is not plugged in - computer goes to sleep before having a chance to login
That's another thing I don't see. Also seems like a bug in itself if the computer goes to sleep before the log in. Do you have a timezone issue on that computer? Is it set up on the wrong timezone or localtime?

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Re: MX-21 KDE/plasma beta 2 feedback thread

#144 Post by Adrian »

10. This is not specifically a KDE bug, but it is an MX beta2 bug; I tried the new Job Scheduler app, and I got these strange errors when I attempted to save my crontab edits, and for the record, I double checked my crontab syntax, and there was nothing wrong with it, so I don't know why the errors are raised:
Might be a Job Scheduler issue, but I could not replicate this either, I successfully created a user task. Do you have errors only when you do root tasks? Also what's the string exactly?

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#145 Post by Adrian »

11. This may or may not tie in with the previous error, but the root crontab doesn't work. I know my syntax is correct because I entered the same commands in my personal user crontab (appending doas to the beginning, of course) and it works perfectly. So there's something wrong with the root crontab, and I don't know what it is.
Just tried, switched to root in Job Scheduler added the command to execute every other minute (a test command) saved, and the command executed without issue, again, what is the command?

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Re: MX-21 KDE/plasma beta 2 feedback thread

#146 Post by pablogvieira »

Hello everyone, I've been testing MX 21 KDE Beta 2 for a couple days now and everything is going preety smoothly.

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-8-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-21_KDE_beta2_x64 Wildflower September 4  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: SAMSUNG product: 340XAA/350XAA/550XAA v: P03REP serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 
           serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: SAMSUNG model: NP350XAA-XF3BR v: SGL9362A08-C01-G006-S0001+10.0.16299 serial: <filter> 
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: P03REP.034.181016.ZW date: 10/16/2018 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT1 charge: 37.6 Wh condition: 37.6/43.1 Wh (87%) volts: 12.6/11.4 
           model: SAMSUNG Electronics SR Real Battery type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full cycles: 163 
           Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored) 
           rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-8550U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Kaby Lake family: 6 model-id: 8E (142) 
           stepping: A (10) microcode: EA L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 31999 
           Speed: 803 MHz min/max: 400/4000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 834 2: 826 3: 838 4: 816 5: 849 6: 842 7: 829 8: 862 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Samsung Co driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5917 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GM108M [GeForce MX110] vendor: Samsung Co driver: N/A bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:174e 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa compositor: kwin_x11 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 620 (KBL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Samsung Co driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 
           chip ID: 8086:9d71 
           Device-2: MacroSilicon USB Video type: USB driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid,uvcvideo bus ID: 1-2:3 
           chip ID: 534d:2109 
           Device-3: BEHRINGER UMC404HD 192k type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio bus ID: 1-3:5 chip ID: 1397:0509 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Samsung Co driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 
           bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8136 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Samsung Co driver: ath10k_pci 
           v: kernel port: d000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0042 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           Device-3: Qualcomm Atheros type: USB driver: btusb bus ID: 1-5:7 chip ID: 0cf3:e500 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.16 TiB used: 381.90 GiB (32.2%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 size: 931.51 GiB block size: physical: 4096 B 
           logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter> rev: SDM2 scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WDS240G2G0B-00EPW0 size: 223.58 GiB block size: physical: 512 B 
           logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 0000 scheme: GPT 
           ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Generic model: SD MMC size: 29.72 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
           serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 74.97 GiB size: 73.24 GiB (97.70%) used: 9.01 GiB (12.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb5 
           ID-2: /home raw size: 93.13 GiB size: 91.17 GiB (97.89%) used: 18.82 GiB (20.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 57.0 C mobo: 57.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ bullseye main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/insync.list 
           1: deb http://apt.insync.io/debian bullseye non-free contrib
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirror.ufam.edu.br/mx/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://mirror.ufam.edu.br/mx/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teams.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable main
Info:      Processes: 266 Uptime: 29m Memory: 7.68 GiB used: 2.57 GiB (33.4%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 
           Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

I'm having some very small issues with MX-Comfort-Dark global theme.

When I first changed to the dark theme, some GTK were buggy on the title bar (close, minimize and maximize buttons were not shown). I solved it by going to Settings > Appearance > Application Style > Window Decoration and manually reapplying Breeze Window Decoration.

I'm also having issues with LibreOffice and dark theming, because the icons remain dark.

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#147 Post by davemx »

Re: previous posts about Vivialdi and Facebook. For whatever reason, the problem with keyboard delays when running Facebook under Vivaldi in MX21ß2KDE has vanished as mysteriously as it appeared! No fan noise either. Strange that it didn't happen in the other distro also running KDE but other little differences could have played a part. As the only difference when I did an update today was MX Package Installer, it must have been the online software running Facebook.
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#148 Post by TimothySimon »

pablogvieira wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:24 pm I'm also having issues with LibreOffice and dark theming, because the icons remain dark.
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#149 Post by siamhie »

Installed b2 today but haven't played around with it too much. (wow does it ever boot fast compared to 19.4)

One thing I was delighted to see was Quickshot but it's not installed.

"Could not find the program '/usr/bin/mxfb-quickshot'"

I copied over the one from my Fluxbox install.
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I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my Fluxbox is useless. Without my Fluxbox, I am useless.

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#150 Post by dolphin_oracle »

siamhie wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:18 pm Installed b2 today but haven't played around with it too much. (wow does it ever boot fast compared to 19.4)

One thing I was delighted to see was Quickshot but it's not installed.

"Could not find the program '/usr/bin/mxfb-quickshot'"

I copied over the one from my Fluxbox install.
you'll want to install mxfb-accessories. (note to self, update mx-fluxbox metapackage).
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