MX-21 KDE/plasma beta 2 feedback thread

[markol]

@markol I noticed this issue goes back awhile for you, is that right?

You did a fresh install of MX-21 Beta 2 not an upgrade from Beta 1 right?

In a stock but updated MX-21 KDE Beta 2 VM, I have always had all the icons in the Applications menu.

To try and replicate that manually updating Libreoffice does or does not cause this problem, I...

- downloaded 7.2.1 from the site
- installed all the .debs, BUT did not remove anything prior

Libreoffice 7.2.1 starts fine and still have all the icons in the Applications menu.

I don't think regular updates or manually updating Libreoffice caused this, I think something is wrong with your initial installation. Going back through the thread I see it was mentioned this should not be an issue anymore. So hopefully when you install again (another Beta, RC, or Final) you won't have this issue.

Yes, this was a clean install. I believe @uncle mark had this problem in beta1.
I don't believe LibreOffice had anything to do with it either.

I will try to reinstall (clean) tonight and retrace the steps.

[davemx]

Not sure what you mean by Load/Save dialog. I use Vivaldi in MX 21 B2 as well, and would like to check your issue. I have Vivaldi version 4.2.2406.48. I think that is the latest stable version.

I just did the general upgrade which took vivaldi to 4.2.2406.58. I did that in both distros. At present, I don't seem to be getting the keyboard delay, but for whatever reason, I can still hear the fan, which I cannot on the other distro. I have a modified MX-asq/GeekyTower which shows the top 10 CPU users instead of 3 and vivaldi-bin was taking too much, over three instances shown. But now it is hardly taking anything after I did a "killall vivaldi-bin" and restarted it without facebook and now it's running silently. Yet in my other distro Facebook doesn't cause a problem.

Load/Save dialogs. Like "Open File" when you want to upload an attachment.

This is the KDE dialog box as used by the other distro:

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This is the Vivaldi dialog box as used by MX

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I'm sure that before I reinstalled MX21ß2-KDE a couple of days ago, that MX was using the first of these, and I had no problems on Facebook.

[richb]

I am afraid you lost me. Those dialog boxes appear to be from Dolphin not the Vivaldi browser. If that is the case the appearance of the window is controlled by the theme chosen in System Settings and how Dolphin is configured.

[davemx]

I am afraid you lost me. Those dialog boxes appear to be from Dolphin not the Vivaldi browser. If that is the case the appearance of the window is controlled by the theme chosen in System Settings and how Dolphin is configured.

OK, I'll have a look at that when I'm next on the computer. Cheers!

[davemx]

No, I am pretty sure I was right. The first dialog box is a KDE File selector, it even says KDialog at the top. The second one is different. It works differently, and has different options, not just a stylistic difference. I went through the options in both Systemsettings and Dolphin, and if you can tell me how to set the style of the dialog box, I'll give it a try.

[markol]

I will try to reinstall (clean) tonight and retrace the steps.

@SwampRabbit a fresh install did the trick, everything went well without problems and/or hickups. I installed it from the same image as before.

[dolphin_oracle]

No, I am pretty sure I was right. The first dialog box is a KDE File selector, it even says KDialog at the top. The second one is different. It works differently, and has different options, not just a stylistic difference. I went through the options in both Systemsettings and Dolphin, and if you can tell me how to set the style of the dialog box, I'll give it a try.

The second dialog looks more gtk than kdialog. Do you have any gtk settings set up or maybe installed mx-fluxbox?

[davemx]

The second dialog looks more gtk than kdialog. Do you have any gtk settings set up or maybe installed mx-fluxbox?

That's what I thought. Obviously I have some gtk programs installed, for example GIMP and Inkscape. I haven't installed fluxbox, I really don't like it. Maybe I should look at the Open dialog in a gtk program for comparison. I'm just at a loss as to why I can't get Vivaldi to use kdialog, and also why Vivaldi is misbehaving. I've been looking on the net and so far found nothing that helps.

[bigboppercole]

I just got a new work notebook, MSI GE75 Raider, i7 w/ GeForce video, so I decided to give the beta2 a try on it. It's dual boot with Windows.
2 issues
1. no sound

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The top controller only has Off as an option.
None of the options on the second controller produce sound.
2. no video output to the external HDMI
The TV I'm connecting to detects that something is plugged in, but in the system settings it never shows the second screen. I've tried setting the refresh rate down to 60Hz and changing the resolution with no change.

I tried installing nvidia drivers with the MX installer which did not help with either.
Everything works fine in Windows.

I am currently at an IT conference and don't have access to a spare flash drive to install MX-19.4 from to see if the issues are there as well, so this may not be just MX-21 related.
Al

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
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[JayM]

I tried installing nvidia drivers with the MX installer which did not help with either.

What happened? Did you get error messages? Your QSI shows that the Nvidia driver 460 was installed, so the driver installation probably succeeded.

If you search the forum you'll find posts about how some laptop manufacturers hard-wire the HDMI port to the Nvidia GPU's bus, and as yours is a bumblebee/optimus system that GPU won't be in use by default. These posts also tell how to work around that so the HDMI port can also be used by the default Intel integrated GPU. That's also explained here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Bumble ... VIDIA_chip.

As a troubleshooting measure open a terminal and run

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optirun kcmshell5 kcm_kscreen

with the TV connected and see if it's detected. If it is, then that's what the situation is: HDMI wired to Nvidia's bus. It wouldn't be an MX issue but a hardware design "feature."