MX-21 beta 2 feedback thread (xfce)

[Eadwine Rose]

I wanted to restore the panel to the defaults to try playing with that dock thing a bit more (removed it first chance I got). Went in MX Tweak - Panel - checked restore default panel and hit apply. I am now panel-less and having to navigate using alt-tab and right clicking on the desktop.

I have done

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xfce4-panel -r &

which is the only command I know to kick things back into gear, but no dice.

Got a popup Failed to restart the panel, GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.Dbus.Error.ServiceUnknown. The name org.xfce.Panel was not provided by any .service files.

Whatever that means, might have been posted already, but I figured I'd report it just in case it wasn't.

Probably will come back after logout login, I happened to reboot and things were restored to default.


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Docklike taskbar, going into panel preferences - items - select the taskbar, and go click edit, that new window pops up behind the active window. All the others in the list pop up in front.

[AK-47]

@asqwerth About your experience:

1. Good point, this never occurred to me. See my response to your suggestion 1.

2. I have recently changed the appearance of the confirmation dialogs so they don't resemble vomit from a Japanese cartoon character. The dialogs are meant to be a summary, so I don't want to clutter them, and the partitions compared with the layout if needed.

3 and 4. If you have a minstall.log can you please post this?

5, 6, and 5. This behavior is weird, I'll look into it.

Now, my response to your suggestions:

1. I'm not sure the default QSpinBox control allows for this, so I need to investigate further. Maybe a context menu with units as you mention, and QDoubleSpinBox for a decimal point if needed.
2. This is poor validation logic inherited from the original installer, but perhaps this can be improved.
3. I'll look into what can be done. The condition shouldn't occur, but see point 2.

About the validation, I am doing an experiment using MVC, which allows for validation improvements not possible with the current pattern. I don't know if this will be ready before the release, but I'll give it a shot.

[asqwerth]

@asqwerth About your experience:

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3 and 4. If you have a minstall.log can you please post this? ...

Don't know if this will help because I forced closed the installer at least twice, or maybe even rebooted the live iso VM (can't recall), but here it is.

[dolphin_oracle]

I wanted to restore the panel to the defaults to try playing with that dock thing a bit more (removed it first chance I got). Went in MX Tweak - Panel - checked restore default panel and hit apply. I am now panel-less and having to navigate using alt-tab and right clicking on the desktop.

I have done

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xfce4-panel -r &

which is the only command I know to kick things back into gear, but no dice.

Got a popup Failed to restart the panel, GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.Dbus.Error.ServiceUnknown. The name org.xfce.Panel was not provided by any .service files.

Whatever that means, might have been posted already, but I figured I'd report it just in case it wasn't.

Probably will come back after logout login, I happened to reboot and things were restored to default.


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Docklike taskbar, going into panel preferences - items - select the taskbar, and go click edit, that new window pops up behind the active window. All the others in the list pop up in front.

I can't duplicate the restore default panel issue right now, but I believe you. Sounds like maybe the panel crashed on restart, but that the changes actually went through.

BTW, you do not need the "&" to do the panel restart. in fact, you shouldn't use the "&" to do the restart.

[fehlix]

@asqwerth About your experience:

1. Good point, this never occurred to me. See my response to your suggestion 1.

2. I have recently changed the appearance of the confirmation dialogs so they don't resemble vomit from a Japanese cartoon character. The dialogs are meant to be a summary, so I don't want to clutter them, and the partitions compared with the layout if needed.

3 and 4. If you have a minstall.log can you please post this?

5, 6, and 5. This behavior is weird, I'll look into it.

Now, my response to your suggestions:

1. I'm not sure the default QSpinBox control allows for this, so I need to investigate further. Maybe a context menu with units as you mention, and QDoubleSpinBox for a decimal point if needed.
2. This is poor validation logic inherited from the original installer, but perhaps this can be improved.
3. I'll look into what can be done. The condition shouldn't occur, but see point 2.

About the validation, I am doing an experiment using MVC, which allows for validation improvements not possible with the current pattern. I don't know if this will be ready before the release, but I'll give it a shot.

What post is the reply referring to?

[Eadwine Rose]

I wanted to restore the panel to the defaults to try playing with that dock thing a bit more (removed it first chance I got). Went in MX Tweak - Panel - checked restore default panel and hit apply. I am now panel-less and having to navigate using alt-tab and right clicking on the desktop.

I have done

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xfce4-panel -r &

which is the only command I know to kick things back into gear, but no dice.

Got a popup Failed to restart the panel, GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.Dbus.Error.ServiceUnknown. The name org.xfce.Panel was not provided by any .service files.

Whatever that means, might have been posted already, but I figured I'd report it just in case it wasn't.

Probably will come back after logout login, I happened to reboot and things were restored to default.

I can't duplicate the restore default panel issue right now, but I believe you. Sounds like maybe the panel crashed on restart, but that the changes actually went through.

BTW, you do not need the "&" to do the panel restart. in fact, you shouldn't use the "&" to do the restart.

Ah, thanks!

*goes remove the & from the notes*

[asqwerth]

@asqwerth About your experience:
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What post is the reply referring to?

viewtopic.php?f=94&t=66249&p=652218&hil ... er#p652218

[Feuerkl1nge]

Finally I've installed new beta2.
Mostly everything fine right now but two annoying things are not yet.

1. Navigating through firefox' bookmarks still results in it's menu dissapearing approximate every third left mouse click. It's a long term bug I noticed in MX 19 too.

2. Similar bug I descriped as of beta1.
I've uninstalled firefox and installed firefox-esr as one of the first actions and now see an empty (settigs-like) icon taking place where the original firefox symbol was.
I cannot delete the empty icon in panel settings due to a right click straight on it. No context menu shows up then.
Reinstalling original firefox and then deteting it don't work either.
The only thing a can do with the icon is hover the cursor on it an then it shows me the location of the icon in the up-popping tooltip information:
/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop
Of course I went to the location to delete it, but there is no such file. Only the esr pendant is present after I linked firefox-esr to the bar.

Quick system info

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-8-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_beta2_x64 Wildflower September 4  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: MSI model: Z170A GAMING PRO (MS-7984) v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1.G0 date: 06/16/2018 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-6600K bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Skylake-S 
           family: 6 model-id: 5E (94) stepping: 3 microcode: EA L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 27999 
           Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/3900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
           STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD Navi 14 [Radeon RX 5500/5500M / Pro 5500M] vendor: Sapphire Limited 
           driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 1002:7340 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: amdgpu,ati 
           unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Radeon RX 5500 XT (NAVI14 DRM 3.40.0 5.10.0-8-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1) 
           v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 100 Series/C230 Series Family HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:a170 
           Device-2: AMD Navi 10 HDMI Audio vendor: Sapphire Limited driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus ID: 03:00.1 chip ID: 1002:ab38 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-V vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: e1000e v: kernel 
           port: f000 bus ID: 00:1f.6 chip ID: 8086:15b8 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Huawei E353/E3131 type: USB driver: cdc_ether bus ID: 1-1:2 
           chip ID: 12d1:14db 
           IF: eth1 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.61 TiB used: 894.68 GiB (54.3%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 950 PRO 512GB size: 476.94 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> 
           rev: 2B0QBXX7 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD1003FZEX-00MK2A0 size: 931.51 GiB 
           block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm 
           serial: <filter> rev: 1A01 scheme: GPT 
           ID-3: /dev/sdb vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 PRO 256GB size: 238.47 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 230.19 GiB size: 225.52 GiB (97.97%) used: 8.44 GiB (3.7%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sdb2 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sdb3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 45.5 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 29 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ bullseye main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 227 Uptime: 1h 05m Memory: 15.59 GiB used: 1.29 GiB (8.3%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

[dolphin_oracle]

Finally I've installed new beta2.
Mostly everything fine right now but two annoying things are not yet.

1. Navigating through firefox' bookmarks still results in it's menu dissapearing approximate every third left mouse click. It's a long term bug I noticed in MX 19 too.

2. Similar bug I descriped as of beta1.
I've uninstalled firefox and installed firefox-esr as one of the first actions and now see an empty (settigs-like) icon taking place where the original firefox symbol was.
I cannot delete the empty icon in panel settings due to a right click straight on it. No context menu shows up then.
Reinstalling original firefox and then deteting it don't work either.
The only thing a can do with the icon is hover the cursor on it an then it shows me the location of the icon in the up-popping tooltip information:
/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop
Of course I went to the location to delete it, but there is no such file. Only the esr pendant is present after I linked firefox-esr to the bar.

Quick system info

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-8-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_beta2_x64 Wildflower September 4  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: MSI model: Z170A GAMING PRO (MS-7984) v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1.G0 date: 06/16/2018 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-6600K bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Skylake-S 
           family: 6 model-id: 5E (94) stepping: 3 microcode: EA L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 27999 
           Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/3900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
           STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD Navi 14 [Radeon RX 5500/5500M / Pro 5500M] vendor: Sapphire Limited 
           driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 1002:7340 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: amdgpu,ati 
           unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Radeon RX 5500 XT (NAVI14 DRM 3.40.0 5.10.0-8-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1) 
           v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 100 Series/C230 Series Family HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:a170 
           Device-2: AMD Navi 10 HDMI Audio vendor: Sapphire Limited driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus ID: 03:00.1 chip ID: 1002:ab38 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-V vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: e1000e v: kernel 
           port: f000 bus ID: 00:1f.6 chip ID: 8086:15b8 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Huawei E353/E3131 type: USB driver: cdc_ether bus ID: 1-1:2 
           chip ID: 12d1:14db 
           IF: eth1 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.61 TiB used: 894.68 GiB (54.3%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 950 PRO 512GB size: 476.94 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> 
           rev: 2B0QBXX7 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD1003FZEX-00MK2A0 size: 931.51 GiB 
           block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm 
           serial: <filter> rev: 1A01 scheme: GPT 
           ID-3: /dev/sdb vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 PRO 256GB size: 238.47 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 230.19 GiB size: 225.52 GiB (97.97%) used: 8.44 GiB (3.7%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sdb2 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sdb3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 45.5 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 29 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ bullseye main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 227 Uptime: 1h 05m Memory: 15.59 GiB used: 1.29 GiB (8.3%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

is there not an option to "unpin" from the panel when you right click on the firefox icon?

[Feuerkl1nge]

is there not an option to "unpin" from the panel when you right click on the firefox icon?

No unfortunately not.