MX-21 fluxbox beta 2 feedback thread

[IoannisTsoulos]

I have installed with success beta 2 (Kde version) on a Tuxedo laptop. I have two minor problems so far
1) The menus do not have sub sections and it is difficult to find some applications
2) I have installed using Greek Language and every time I should select the US language in the display manager to enter my password

[app4soft]

gThumb always fails on start with "segfault":

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$ gthumb
Segmentation fault
$ dmesg | grep -i gthumb
[ 1389.949391] gthumb[29083]: segfault at 0 ip 0000000000000000 sp 00007ffc11dafa98 error 14 in gthumb[5652940d1000+38000]

This was happen in beta1 and now in beta2.

My Quickinfo:

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: quiet splasht nosplash 
           Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.7 info: tint2 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_fluxbox_beta2_x64 Wildflower September 04  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Other-vm? System: SAMSUNG product: SR58P v: 06YK serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 1 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: SAMSUNG model: SR58P serial: <filter> BIOS: Phoenix v: 06YK date: 03/05/2008 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT1 charge: 24.4 Wh condition: 24.4/24.4 Wh (100%) volts: N/A/11.1 
           model: SAMSUNG Electronics type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: Full 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium Dual T2330 bits: 64 type: MCP 
           arch: Core Merom family: 6 model-id: F (15) stepping: D (13) microcode: A4 
           L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 6384 
           Speed: 954 MHz min/max: 800/1600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 954 2: 874 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD RS600M [Radeon Xpress 1250] vendor: Samsung Co driver: radeon v: kernel 
           bus ID: 01:05.0 chip ID: 1002:7942 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: ati,radeon 
           unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1280x800~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: ATI RS600 v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: Samsung Co driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID: 1002:4383 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Askey 
           driver: ath5k v: kernel port: 9000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 168c:001c 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Marvell 88E8039 PCI-E Fast Ethernet vendor: Samsung Co driver: sky2 v: 1.30 
           port: a000 bus ID: 05:00.0 chip ID: 11ab:4353 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 119.27 GiB used: 2.09 GiB (1.8%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MK1246GSX size: 111.79 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 1.5 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 2A scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Transcend model: JetFlash Transcend 8GB 
           size: 7.48 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 8.07 
           scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 1.31 GiB used: 463.2 MiB (34.5%) fs: overlay 
           source: ERR-102 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 1.75 GiB used: 307.8 MiB (17.2%) fs: swap 
           swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda5 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 202 Uptime: 1h 09m Memory: 1.69 GiB used: 898.9 MiB (52.0%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

[Eadwine Rose]

I have installed with success beta 2 (Kde version) on a Tuxedo laptop. I have two minor problems so far
1) The menus do not have sub sections and it is difficult to find some applications
2) I have installed using Greek Language and every time I should select the US language in the display manager to enter my password

@IoannisTsoulos You need to put this feedback in the KDE beta topic. This is for fluxbox.

[Jerry3904]

Tool-tip still goes below panel when hovering over Network and Speaker icons. Everything else on the panel shows above. (changed Maximized window setting to Match the hidden panel size corrects this)

got it

Settings manager crops icon names on the right

I can confirm that (new) behavior, thanks. @Adrian

- I believe it is for the best that you have eliminated the use of Fn keys without modifiers, but it would be nice if we had a standard key combination for opening roxterm, besides the icon. Might I suggest "Ctrl+Alt+t" which is the common shortcut used in the Ubuntu flavors.

I'll put it on the list, thanks

Might it be worth considering a different file manager like SpaceFM (might be easier to script the choosing wallpaper idea expressed earlier in this thread) since we don't need to use the XFCE apps since XFCE isn't installed with this iso? Would it save some iso space to eliminate XFCE Thunar and Terminal? A smaller tighter download for the "lighter" MX version might be a nice side benefit.

Not in my book: individual preferences for app substitutions are easy to carry out

I miss having a clear indication of which "workspace" or "desktop" I'm on

Hmmm. Some of the tint2s in the collection have this feature, and I'm not sure ATM if the default needs it. The switch to show taskbar name is in the "Taskbar" section; open Tint2 manager, click the Edit button, search for "taskbar_name" and set it to 1

I'm not familiar with gThumb but with a little DDG searching, I found the solution. Preferences>Extensions>turn off Comments and tags. No more hidden comment folder.

Thanks--not sure how the config got changed but we'll correct it

1. The localization of the RootMenu still fails.

I know, thanks. The process is broken ATM.

2. Is the lack of description for Trash-check activator intentional or accidental?

A little of both! The app came in just before the end of B1 and I had no time to do a regular desktop file.

installed iso fluxbox beta 2. No Sound on this machine

Not seen myself and not being reported generally. Did you go through the standard process (as in Users Manual or Wiki, for example)?

gThumb always fails on start with "segfault"

I've not seen that behavior but will check.

[fehlix]

Seems the MX-21 fluxbox beta 2 ISO comes with a slightly older version of the Live-grub menu:
The version number is displayed under Boot Rescue menu as: 21.08.20:

Live-Grub-Fluxbox-Beta2-Version.png

On both the Xfce and KDE MX-21 beta2 iso's it shows latest version as: 21.09.02:

Live-Grub-Xfce-Beta2-Version.png

Live-Grub-KDE-Beta2-Version.png

The later version includes latest translations within the live grub menu and some adjustment and bugfixes within Boot rescue menus for finding EFI and Grub boot loader.

[Jerry3904]

Thanks @m_pav

[siamhie]

hello dolphin_oracle
installed iso fluxbox beta 2. No Sound on this machine

Same thing happened to me with b1 and b2. Right click the icon and go to preferences. In the Device section it shows default. Click the drop down and select the device you're connected to. On my system, mixer shows both HDMI and Line Out as plugged in but it seems default doesn't grab Line Out as my default connection.

[mowest]

While playing with resource usage of MX-21, I disabled the Dock using the "Out of Sight" / "Disable Default Dock" option. This of course works, it removes the dock on the left hand side and comments out the script in `~/.fluxbox/startup`

There doesn't seem to be an easy way for users to "re-enable" the Default Dock. You can bring the dock back with the menu option "Appearance/Docks/Default" but when you reboot the default dock is still disabled in `~/.fluxbox/startup`

You can re-enable the dock by uncommenting the line in `~/.fluxbox/startup`, but I think for the new users it might be nice to have either the "Appearance/Docks/Default" re-enable the dock permanately, or have an option in "Out Of Sight" to re-enable the default dock so they can get it back easily after loosing it because they were just messing around with settings.

MX-Welcome
- I love having the welcome screen, but its current color scheme (little splash of color at the top just below the window bar) clashes with the default wallpaper and conky. Are there plans to change that to a color scheme that meshes a bit better with the defaults? It might provide just another added nice touch to the finished MX-21.

[PPC]

@Jerry3904 - just an heads up- I found a small bug in a script that processes .desktop files (used in antiX) - descriptions of those files were localized only to language codes with 2 letters- ence, for example pt_BR (from Brazil) app descriptions did not show up, instead only "pt" (that equals pt_PT, from Portugal) descriptions where picked up. I fixed that in my antix script, but I'll have, probably over the week-end, try to do the same to the menu generator script... It's not a huge bug, but solving it may improve user experience for non English speaking folks...

About the "no sound" problem reported above- maybe the way to solve it could be in the download notes (it's not exactly a bug, but it may hinder user satisfaction).

Yesterday I explored a bit more the tint2 configs that come with b2... There are so many nice ideas... You could ask around if users would like some features on the default toolbar that are available on other docks... Like the "weather app"- it's very well implemented on a config [my take is not that handy- I use a "cloudy son" icon, right next to the systray- if I click there, a wttr.in terminal window pops open- this uses no extra resources (no script running to get the current weather- like some user said- "I don't need to look at the toolbar to know current the weather, I look out the window". Another great tint2 feature I love and always use is the window thumbnails in the taskbar- at least one vertical tint2 config uses this- I consider this one of the few eye candy options that I have available- as far I know it costs no system resources and makes the toolbar look and feel more modern and, sometimes, useful, making it easier to find some windows at a glance.
A tint2 config also had something I thought was missing from MXFB betas- rofi launcher!- this is such a fast and usefull tool that I have it linked to a "magnifying glass" icon near my menu button- left click to start the app finder script, right click to start the file finder script:

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xdg-open "$(locate home media /usr/share/icons/ | rofi -threads 0 -dmenu -i -p "")"

(the /usr/share/icons part I added to help me locate icons when I was setting up my system)
I also have some other tweaks I use on my tint2 toolbar, but they are a bit too extreme for MXFB- with one exception- my script to display CPU and RAM on the toolbar- having that there is more accessible than a Conky- at saves a little RAM too (also can show disk space, but that is comment out) [note that I'm way from my MXFB computer, this code may have to be adapted to work in MXFB beta2]:

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#!/bin/bash

 read cpu a b c previdle rest < /proc/stat
 prevtotal=$((a+b+c+previdle))
 sleep 1.5
 read cpu a b c idle rest < /proc/stat
 total=$((a+b+c+idle))
 cpu=$((100*( (total-prevtotal) - (idle-previdle) ) / (total-prevtotal) ))
 mem=`free | awk '/Mem/ {printf "%d MB\n", $3 / 1024.0, $2 / 1024.0 }'`
 disk=$(df / |cut -d' ' -f11 |tail -1)
 #UnComment to show CPU icon (and if doing so, comment the "echo" line:
 #Please note an "echo" line here allows to be displayed, next to it, more than one line, piled horizontally
 #echo /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/24x24/panel/indicator-sensors-cpu.png
  echo
 #UnComment to show CPU usage (in percetage):
  echo "CPU $cpu%"
 #UnComment to show available RAM:
 echo "RAM $mem"
 #UnComment to show available disk space in home:
 # echo " /     $disk"
 

This are some of my suggestions, maybe you think some can be useful on the default (or on default) tint2 toolbar...

Comments: I loved the left click/right click on clock option- having an alarm handy may be useful- it saves users from having to set it on a phone.
I tried out compton for the very first time on VB yesterday- it worked great, making the default conky transparent- one suggestion isn't pycom lighter?

PS:
To the user that suggested using spacefm as default file manager- it's a great FM- I've been using it for years, in antiX, but it's no longer being actively developed- an antiX forum user called Skidoo forked it, and solved some bugs, made it much lighter- it's called "zzzfm", and you can find it's .deb file in the antiX forum (there are 32/64 bits versions and GTK2/3 versions).

[Jerry3904]

Welcome is not under MXFB control.