MX-21 beta 2 feedback thread (xfce)

[dolphin_oracle]

https://mxlinux.org/blog/mx-21-beta-2-n ... -purposes/

don't forget the Quick-system-info output and the appropriate log files per the blog post when reporting bugs.


***unintended issue>>> gtk3-nocsd is actually still installed on the Xfce and fluxbox isos. users are encouraged to remove that package to avoid strange interface issues in gtk based apps. These were supposed to be removed at build but they snuck back in. They will not be installed on final.

[j2mcgreg]

When you use MX Tweak to switch to root for administrative tasks, you are prompted for a password but it wants the user's password rather than the root password. That is not intuitive.

[dolphin_oracle]

When you use MX Tweak to switch to root for administrative tasks, you are prompted for a password but it wants the user's password rather than the root password. That is not intuitive.

you have to use the current admin password to switch.

[AltTabDelete]

I noticed that running MX-21 beta 2 from Live-DVD, when attempting to run GParted the password required to run it was demo rather than root . I expected to need the root password.

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-686-pae i686 bits: 32 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: quiet splasht nosplash forcepae 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_beta2_386 Wildflower September 4  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Portable System: Dell product: Latitude D800 v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 8 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 01W890 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A13 date: 06/30/2005 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 68.6 Wh condition: 68.6/77.8 Wh (88%) volts: 11.9/10.8 
           model: SMP DELL Y1635 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Topology: Single Core model: Intel Pentium M bits: 32 type: MCP arch: M Banias 
           family: 6 model-id: 9 stepping: 5 microcode: 7 L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
           flags: pae sse sse2 bogomips: 2797 
           Speed: 600 MHz min/max: 600/1400 MHz Core speed (MHz): 1: 600 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200 64M] vendor: Dell driver: nouveau v: kernel 
           bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:0324 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: nouveau unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
           alternate: nv resolution: 1280x800~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: NV34 v: 1.5 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM AC97 Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_intel8x0 
           v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.5 chip ID: 8086:24c5 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-686-pae 
Network:   Device-1: Broadcom and subsidiaries NetXtreme BCM5705M Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: Dell Latitude D400 driver: tg3 v: kernel port: b080 bus ID: 02:00.0 
           chip ID: 14e4:165d 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR5212/5213/2414 Wireless Network Adapter driver: ath5k 
           v: kernel port: ecf8 bus ID: 02:03.0 chip ID: 168c:0013 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 111.79 GiB used: 168.5 MiB (0.1%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD1200VE-22KWT0 size: 111.79 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: <unknown> serial: <filter> 
           rev: 3K01 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 1.54 GiB used: 167.2 MiB (10.6%) fs: overlay 
           source: ERR-102 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.10 GiB used: 1.3 MiB (0.1%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 56.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 178 Uptime: 25m Memory: 1.97 GiB used: 717.8 MiB (35.6%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

[SwampRabbit]

I noticed that running MX-21 beta 2 from Live-DVD, when attempting to run GParted the password required to run it was demo rather than root . I expected to need the root password.

This is the same as the previous comment, demo IS designated as the current user with administrator rights, it’s no different from the Beta 1.

It’s going to be the same for most other functions too.

[fehlix]

I noticed that running MX-21 beta 2 from Live-DVD, when attempting to run GParted the password required to run it was demo rather than root . I expected to need the root password.

Tha's actually a tweak-option, where currently Admnistrative tasks are set to be authenticated as "user" not as root.
The Authtication pop-up looks a bit different:
For user authtentication (to enter user password), it just asks to enter "Password"):

gparted-reuired-demo-passwd.png

For authentication as user root it asks to enter "Password for root"):

gparted-reuired-for-root-passwd-x32.png

[fehlix]

Live-system: two "glitches:

* Live-boot appears to hang due to requested live-password change:

User can select boot option "password" to change live users password (demo/root) before booting:
Under boot options select password:

boot-option-live-change-pw-before-boot.png

press enter and it lists "Boot option: password"

boot-option-live-pw-change.png

But when booting the system will just hang at "live scripts ...":

boot-option-live-change-pw-system-hangs.png

So currently the user need to know to press Alt-F1, to see the password change screen:

boot-option-live-alt-f1-change-pw.png

The fix was already send up to gitlab live-intitrd.gz, but somehow have been overloaded by other changes.
So will upload again...

* A small "translation" item for an already translated string with the "Boot options" menu:

An already translated string within the boot options menu "vcard menu: ...." appears not to be translated.
Examples in French and Spanish:

boot-option-live-vcard-menu-not-translated.png

boot-option-live-vcard-menu-not-translated-fr.png

The reason: An already fixed typo of the orignal string in English seems to be have reappeared within the menu. So will check again.

[Stuart_M]

I just did a cursory test of MX-21 beta2 and thought I'd mention two things that may be of interest to others.

First, the GRUB error that appears at the 95% installation point remains for me as it did with beta1. This problem was detailed in Post #20 of the "MX-21 beta 1 feedback thread" viewtopic.php?p=646086#p646086 which was using mx-installer 21.7.04, the most current at the time. The same problem occurs with the MX-21 beta2 mx-installer 21.8.10 which I think is the most current as of this writing.

The solution to that problem appeared in fehlix's Post #23 viewtopic.php?p=646091#p646091 which said, in summary, to see if there are NVRAM space issues in /sys/firmware/efi/efivars:

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ls -l1 /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/dump*

To clear those entries, run:

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sudo rm /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/dump*

Of course there were many entries there so I ran the command on the Live USB installer and it installed without any problems. Perhaps this will help others with the same problem.



Second, not all of the Panel ToolTips appear when the mouse pointer is hovered over a Panel icon in the System Tray when using a lower-horizontal Panel.

This is the same problem when MX-19 first appeared. The reason is because MX-19 uses GTK3 and MX-18 uses GTK2. At the time it was hoped that the new Panel (xfce4-panel 4.16) would have it fixed, but that did not happen.

I know this is a known problem and it is for xfce to fix, but I bring it up only to show some workaround options, which are the same for MX-19 that I had posted elsewhere.

Any one of the following three will work. Go to Panel Preferences > Display tab, then:

1. Enable "Don't reserve space on borders"
2. Set "Row size (pixels):" to 29 pixels or less (30 pixels or more will have the problem (the default is 35px))
3. Set "Automatically hide the panel:" to "Intelligently" or "Always" (the default "Never" does not fix it)

The below images show a normally looking Panel ToolTip and an off-screen Panel ToolTip. Both images are with the NetworkManager ToolTip using the default 35px Panel height. The wallpaper has been changed to a grey solid color.

Normal (using the "A" work-around):

Panel_Network_ToolTip_OnScreen.png

Off-screen. It's very difficult to see until the image is opened (enlarged). Only a few rows of pixels of the ToolTip can be seen:

Panel_Network_ToolTip_OffScreen.png

[Huckleberry Finn]

To MX Team: Would a zsync file be possible for those who already have the Beta1 iso .. ? (just a humble suggestion, if it's worth it )

[chrispop99]

This might be unimportant to most users, but gThumb is unable to open .psd (Photoshop) files.

GwenView does open them.

Chris