MX-21 beta 1 feedback thread

[j.kemp]

RemasterCC not listed in MX Tools app anymore? I did find it by searching, and it works, there seem to be an empty spot where it used to be.

[Adrian]

RemasterCC not listed in MX Tools app anymore? I did find it by searching, and it works, there seem to be an empty spot where it used to be.

Are you running Live? It needs to be live to be enabled, I see it when I boot from the ISO, it won't show when you boot from installed MX because there's nothing you can do with Remaster CC when booting from installed system. Let us know if that's not the case for you...

[swac]

I installed the 32-bit fluxbox beta on a Dell M2400 with Nvidia Quadro FX 370M. Installation went fine but I wasn't able to install the Nvidia driver using the built-in Nvidia driver installation tool. I tried installing manually with the driver file from Nvidia's driver web page, but the Nvidia driver seems to be unable to disable the Nouveau drivers.

@swac please supply the /var/log/ddm.log file.

be warned...32 bit nvidia is getting less and less. there is only one driver set left in debian 11 that supports 32 bit drivers, and you have to be able to use the nvidia 390 drivers for that.

Also, mostly I'm just testing the 32-bit distro to give some feedback on quality. Long-term, I'm planning on running 64-bit OS. Too much newer software doesn't even release in 32-bit anymore. And some of this stuff is a huge effort to compile, like chromium.

Anyways, as requested the ddm.log file is below. I tried multiple times with no success. I think a possible solution would be write a workaround to manually install the drivers in the documentation somewhere. Thanks for all the hard work on the distro.

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creating lock ...
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Install drivers for: nvidia
Start at (m/d/y): 08/21/2021 13:19:40
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========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Refreshing Sources with apt-get update
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Would you like to check MX Test Repo for a later version?
Ok...
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
nvidia driver not available, check your repo sources


Press <Enter> to exitcreating lock ...
===================================
Install drivers for: nvidia
Start at (m/d/y): 08/21/2021 13:20:23
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Refreshing Sources with apt-get update
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Would you like to check MX Test Repo for a later version?


Press <Enter> to exitcreating lock ...
===================================
Install drivers for: nvidia
Start at (m/d/y): 08/21/2021 13:20:44
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Refreshing Sources with apt-get update
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Would you like to check MX Test Repo for a later version?
Ok...
Refreshing Sources with apt-get update
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Main repo candidate is:  
MX Test repo candidate is:  
Installed is: 
Which driver do you wish to install

Main repos or MX Test

1: Main

2: MX Test

3: Exit

Enter Number of selection
Ok...
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
nvidia driver not available, check your repo sources


Press <Enter> to exitcreating lock ...
===================================
Install drivers for: nvidia
Start at (m/d/y): 08/21/2021 13:21:29
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Refreshing Sources with apt-get update
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Would you like to check MX Test Repo for a later version?
Ok...
Refreshing Sources with apt-get update
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Main repo candidate is:  
MX Test repo candidate is:  
Installed is: 
Which driver do you wish to install

Main repos or MX Test

1: Main

2: MX Test

3: Exit

Enter Number of selection
Ok...
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
nvidia driver not available, check your repo sources


Press <Enter> to exit

[dolphin_oracle]

Hmmm weird

Can you run output of

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nvidia-detect-mx

[j.kemp]

Are you running Live? It needs to be live to be enabled, I see it when I boot from the ISO, it won't show when you boot from installed MX because there's nothing you can do with Remaster CC when booting from installed system. Let us know if that's not the case for you...

Thanks for replying. You are correct. I am not live, that explains it. I have always been live in the past, but decided to install during this test.

[dolphin_oracle]

I installed the 32-bit fluxbox beta on a Dell M2400 with Nvidia Quadro FX 370M. Installation went fine but I wasn't able to install the Nvidia driver using the built-in Nvidia driver installation tool. I tried installing manually with the driver file from Nvidia's driver web page, but the Nvidia driver seems to be unable to disable the Nouveau drivers.

@swac please supply the /var/log/ddm.log file.

be warned...32 bit nvidia is getting less and less. there is only one driver set left in debian 11 that supports 32 bit drivers, and you have to be able to use the nvidia 390 drivers for that.

Also, mostly I'm just testing the 32-bit distro to give some feedback on quality. Long-term, I'm planning on running 64-bit OS. Too much newer software doesn't even release in 32-bit anymore. And some of this stuff is a huge effort to compile, like chromium.

Anyways, as requested the ddm.log file is below. I tried multiple times with no success. I think a possible solution would be write a workaround to manually install the drivers in the documentation somewhere. Thanks for all the hard work on the distro.

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creating lock ...
===================================
Install drivers for: nvidia
Start at (m/d/y): 08/21/2021 13:19:40
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Refreshing Sources with apt-get update
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Would you like to check MX Test Repo for a later version?
Ok...
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
nvidia driver not available, check your repo sources


Press <Enter> to exitcreating lock ...
===================================
Install drivers for: nvidia
Start at (m/d/y): 08/21/2021 13:20:23
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Refreshing Sources with apt-get update
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Would you like to check MX Test Repo for a later version?


Press <Enter> to exitcreating lock ...
===================================
Install drivers for: nvidia
Start at (m/d/y): 08/21/2021 13:20:44
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Refreshing Sources with apt-get update
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Would you like to check MX Test Repo for a later version?
Ok...
Refreshing Sources with apt-get update
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Main repo candidate is:  
MX Test repo candidate is:  
Installed is: 
Which driver do you wish to install

Main repos or MX Test

1: Main

2: MX Test

3: Exit

Enter Number of selection
Ok...
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
nvidia driver not available, check your repo sources


Press <Enter> to exitcreating lock ...
===================================
Install drivers for: nvidia
Start at (m/d/y): 08/21/2021 13:21:29
===================================

========================================
========================================

To restore open source drivers use:  
sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia

========================================
========================================

Refreshing Sources with apt-get update
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Would you like to check MX Test Repo for a later version?
Ok...
Refreshing Sources with apt-get update
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
Main repo candidate is:  
MX Test repo candidate is:  
Installed is: 
Which driver do you wish to install

Main repos or MX Test

1: Main

2: MX Test

3: Exit

Enter Number of selection
Ok...
Candidate is: 
Installed is: 
nvidia driver not available, check your repo sources


Press <Enter> to exit

that card is no longer supported by 32 bit drivers, but the tool is supposed to tell you that. will look into where it went wrong. @swac thanks for the log file.

[Richard]

I'm getting an artifact of blank space around the Firefox window as shown in the image below.
After close / reopen FF it disappears for a while.

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-8-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_beta1_x64 Wildflower July 27  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 2349DG5 v: ThinkPad T430 serial: <filter> 
           Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 2349DG5 serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: LENOVO 
           v: G1ET92WW (2.52 ) date: 02/14/2013 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 55.4 Wh condition: 56.1/56.2 Wh (100%) volts: 12.2/10.8 
           model: LGC 45N1005 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-3380M bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ivy Bridge 
           family: 6 model-id: 3A (58) stepping: 9 microcode: 21 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 23147 
           Speed: 1746 MHz min/max: 1200/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1730 2: 1631 3: 1672 
           4: 1686 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
           STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0166 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           compositor: compton v: 1 resolution: 1600x900~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2) v: 4.2 Mesa 20.3.5 
           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1e20 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: kernel 
           port: 5080 bus ID: 00:19.0 chip ID: 8086:1502 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] driver: iwlwifi v: kernel 
           port: efa0 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 8086:0085 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 2.49 TiB used: 11.18 GiB (0.4%) 
           ID-1: /dev/mmcblk0 model: SC128 size: 119.08 GiB block size: physical: 512 B 
           logical: 512 B serial: <filter> scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sda model: Acer GT500A SATA3 256G size: 238.47 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 1A0 scheme: MBR 
           ID-3: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Lexar model: USB Flash Drive size: 28.91 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1100 scheme: MBR 
           ID-4: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD Elements 2621 
           size: 1.82 TiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1026 
           scheme: GPT 
           ID-5: /dev/sdd type: USB vendor: Samsung model: HM322IX size: 298.09 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 36.87 GiB size: 35.99 GiB (97.63%) used: 11.18 GiB (31.1%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda1 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0 C mobo: 0.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 3618 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/home:Alexx2000.list 
           1: deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Alexx2000/Debian_10/ /
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 258 Uptime: 32m Memory: 7.48 GiB used: 2.07 GiB (27.6%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

After Close/Reopen:


And sometimes on Thunar:

[asqwerth]

What is that Debian 10 Alexx2000 repo? @Richard

[Richard]

@asqwerth That is the DoubleCmd repo: https://doublecmd.sourceforge.io/
..... https://sourceforge.net/p/doublecmd/wiki/Download/
I've been using it for years. This version is still using GTK2x

I've only noticed the artifact with Firefox and Thunar so far.
I will purge doublecmd, reboot and see if it goes away. [Purged.]

Firefox and Thunar give the artifact when autostarted.
Started normally, so far don't see it.

Setting FF & Thunar to autostart and see if it still happens.
Yes, the artifact is back, showing on Firefox and Thunar.

Also notice that my hidden panel from bottom left,
appears momentarily unhidden at the top left;
but it.goes back to the bottom without any intervention.
This occurs regardless of the state of Autostart for Firefox &/or Thunar.

Seems to be more related to the Autostart process.

[Richard]

Autostart using the "Save session for future logins."
does not start Chrome
under sysvinit nor with systemd.

but then latest Chrome app isn't working very well for editing until after opening the Preview menu? The editor refuses to insert the Quick System Info.
Only worked by using the Clipit app.
Did not work by Pasting directly after running the QSI.

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-8-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           init=/lib/systemd/systemd 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_beta1_x64 Wildflower July 27  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 2349DG5 v: ThinkPad T430 serial: <filter> 
           Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 2349DG5 serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: LENOVO 
           v: G1ET92WW (2.52 ) date: 02/14/2013 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 55.4 Wh condition: 56.1/56.2 Wh (100%) volts: 12.2/10.8 
           model: LGC 45N1005 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-3380M bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ivy Bridge 
           family: 6 model-id: 3A (58) stepping: 9 microcode: 21 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 23147 
           Speed: 1666 MHz min/max: 1200/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1669 2: 1453 3: 1431 
           4: 1427 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
           STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0166 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           compositor: compton v: 1 resolution: 1600x900~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2) v: 4.2 Mesa 20.3.5 
           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1e20 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: kernel 
           port: 5080 bus ID: 00:19.0 chip ID: 8086:1502 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] driver: iwlwifi v: kernel 
           port: efa0 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 8086:0085 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 2.49 TiB used: 11.26 GiB (0.4%) 
           ID-1: /dev/mmcblk0 model: SC128 size: 119.08 GiB block size: physical: 512 B 
           logical: 512 B serial: <filter> scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sda model: Acer GT500A SATA3 256G size: 238.47 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 1A0 scheme: MBR 
           ID-3: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Lexar model: USB Flash Drive size: 28.91 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1100 scheme: MBR 
           ID-4: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD Elements 2621 
           size: 1.82 TiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1026 
           scheme: GPT 
           ID-5: /dev/sdd type: USB vendor: Samsung model: HM322IX size: 298.09 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 36.87 GiB size: 35.99 GiB (97.63%) used: 11.26 GiB (31.3%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda1 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0 C mobo: 0.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 3631 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/home:Alexx2000.list 
           1: deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Alexx2000/Debian_10/ /
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 254 Uptime: 1m Memory: 7.48 GiB used: 1.12 GiB (15.0%) Init: systemd 
           v: 247 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36