MX-21 beta 1 feedback thread

[j.kemp]

A quick note for those copying their /home folder over to test settings from 19.4 on the new beta1. On my system it broke Conky. May be something in the conky-startup.sh script. I overwrote the files from the /usr/share/mx-conky-data/themes folder into my /home/little_old_me/.conky folder, logged out and back in, and it started working again.

[j.kemp]

Try Milan or Utah

Thanks, I'll give those a try.

[asqwerth]

A quick note for those copying their /home folder over to test settings from 19.4 on the new beta1. On my system it broke Conky. May be something in the conky-startup.sh script. I overwrote the files from the /usr/share/mx-conky-data/themes folder into my /home/little_old_me/.conky folder, logged out and back in, and it started working again.

You may have had old syntax conky configs in your home folder. What conky config did you try to run?

Newer versions of the conky program will not run old syntax configs anymore. They'll only run those that use the Lua syntax. This started happening in rolling distros like the Arch-based ones maybe last year so we knew it was coming for the version of conky post-Debian buster.

MX 19's version of conky can still run old and new syntax conky configs.

[swac]

I installed the 32-bit fluxbox beta on a Dell M2400 with Nvidia Quadro FX 370M. Installation went fine but I wasn't able to install the Nvidia driver using the built-in Nvidia driver installation tool. I tried installing manually with the driver file from Nvidia's driver web page, but the Nvidia driver seems to be unable to disable the Nouveau drivers.

[dolphin_oracle]

I installed the 32-bit fluxbox beta on a Dell M2400 with Nvidia Quadro FX 370M. Installation went fine but I wasn't able to install the Nvidia driver using the built-in Nvidia driver installation tool. I tried installing manually with the driver file from Nvidia's driver web page, but the Nvidia driver seems to be unable to disable the Nouveau drivers.

@swac please supply the /var/log/ddm.log file.

be warned...32 bit nvidia is getting less and less. there is only one driver set left in debian 11 that supports 32 bit drivers, and you have to be able to use the nvidia 390 drivers for that.

[ddw867]

Working fine so far on an older Dell laptop, thanks for all the hard work

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-8-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_beta1_x64 Wildflower July 27  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Portable System: Dell product: Inspiron N5050 v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 8 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 01HXXJ v: A03 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A03 date: 10/14/2011 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 53.5 Wh condition: 53.5/48.8 Wh (109%) volts: 12.5/11.1 
           model: SMP DELL 8NH5515 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-2350M bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
           arch: Sandy Bridge family: 6 model-id: 2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 2F 
           L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 18360 
           Speed: 955 MHz min/max: 800/2300 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 865 2: 1020 3: 907 4: 976 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
           STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell 
           driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0116 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 3000 (SNB GT2) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 
           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio vendor: Dell 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1c20 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Dell driver: r8169 
           v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 05:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8136 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Dell driver: ath9k 
           v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 09:00.0 chip ID: 168c:002b 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           Device-3: Qualcomm Atheros AR3011 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb bus ID: 1-1.4:6 
           chip ID: 0cf3:3005 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 231.17 GiB used: 131.28 GiB (56.8%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SV300S37A120G size: 111.79 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: BBF0 scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Generic model: Multi-Card size: 119.38 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 106.13 GiB size: 103.91 GiB (97.90%) used: 70.32 GiB (67.7%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 5.62 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2936 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list 
           1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 220 Uptime: 1h 26m Memory: 7.68 GiB used: 1009.0 MiB (12.8%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 
           Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

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[dreamer]

I played with the Fluxbox iso and things are looking better in every way than I expected.

The big thing for Xfce would be that there are no libxfce4ui-nocsd packages. I have them on my MX-19 Xfce 4.16 snapshot and they work flawlessly. You can recreate the look and feel of Xfce 4.14 with these packages since unlike gtk3-nocsd this is a native nocsd solution for all apps relying on libxfce4ui. For other apps like LibreOffice there is:

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$ xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Gtk/DialogsUseHeader -s false

So in the end only Simple Scan and File Roller need to use CSD. I use Engrampa so I guess I can live with Simple Scan.
EDIT: I checked Simple Scan. It uses Xfwm in Xfce 4.14 and in Xfce 4.16 with libxfce4ui-nocsd installed. dconf Editor would be a better example of a native CSD application.

So that would be a package request for the future I guess. It seems it is enough to package these packages once, since Xfce development has already started targeting Xfce 4.18 with the latest libxfce4ui release. I have seen people complaining about CSDs in this thread, but the "real" solution wasn't mentioned.

https://github.com/Xfce-Classic/libxfce4ui-nocsd

[j.kemp]

What conky config did you try to run?

MX-Cowon_blue_dinreg. It seems to be in both MX 21b1 and MX 19.4

[j.kemp]

If I copied the contents of these folders over from MX 19.4 to MX 21b1 what do you guys think would happen?

• /root

• /home

• /etc

• /opt

• /usr/local

• /var/backups

• /var/games

• /var/lib

• /var/local

• /var/log

• /var/mail

• /var/opt

• /var/webmin

• /var/spool/anacron

• /var/spool/cron/crontabs

• /var/spool/libreoffice

• /var/www

Are there any config files that would cause the new version to think it's the old version?
Would it cause any problems with any packages?

[ddw867]

Working fine so far on an older Dell laptop, thanks for all the hard work

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-8-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_beta1_x64 Wildflower July 27  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Portable System: Dell product: Inspiron N5050 v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 8 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 01HXXJ v: A03 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A03 date: 10/14/2011 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 53.5 Wh condition: 53.5/48.8 Wh (109%) volts: 12.5/11.1 
           model: SMP DELL 8NH5515 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-2350M bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
           arch: Sandy Bridge family: 6 model-id: 2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 2F 
           L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 18360 
           Speed: 955 MHz min/max: 800/2300 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 865 2: 1020 3: 907 4: 976 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
           STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell 
           driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0116 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 3000 (SNB GT2) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 
           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio vendor: Dell 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1c20 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Dell driver: r8169 
           v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 05:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8136 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Dell driver: ath9k 
           v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 09:00.0 chip ID: 168c:002b 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           Device-3: Qualcomm Atheros AR3011 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb bus ID: 1-1.4:6 
           chip ID: 0cf3:3005 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 231.17 GiB used: 131.28 GiB (56.8%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SV300S37A120G size: 111.79 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: BBF0 scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Generic model: Multi-Card size: 119.38 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 106.13 GiB size: 103.91 GiB (97.90%) used: 70.32 GiB (67.7%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 5.62 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2936 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list 
           1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 220 Uptime: 1h 26m Memory: 7.68 GiB used: 1009.0 MiB (12.8%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 
           Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

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Well almost..network printer didn't respond to a print request, tried deleting it and adding again and seems to be working okay now. Noticed Acrobat reader wasn't in the MX package installer any more, tried installing from a deb file, it said all dependencies were satisfied but doesn't start, no biggie right now, just liked the options for printing more in this than in any linux PDF readers.