MX-21 beta 1 feedback thread

[Marek]

Thank you. Everything is now up and running as it should be. I attached the log, maybe it will be useful. Sorry that it was overwritten.

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Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated 
  Graphics 
  driver: i915 v: kernel 
  Device-2: NVIDIA GF108M [GeForce GT 540M] driver: nvidia v: 390.144 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: modesetting 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 540M/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.144 

[dolphin_oracle]

Thank you. Everything is now up and running as it should be. I attached the log, maybe it will be useful. Sorry that it was overwritten.

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Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated 
  Graphics 
  driver: i915 v: kernel 
  Device-2: NVIDIA GF108M [GeForce GT 540M] driver: nvidia v: 390.144 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: modesetting 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 540M/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.144 

no worries, thanks for the debugging and for providing the logs

[dolphin_oracle]

Webcamoid bug.

I've reported this earlier, but the more I've thought about it, the more I think it will be a problem. If you have a USB webcam that is recognised by, and works with, Webcamoid, but you accidentally launch the program with the webcam unplugged, Webcamoid will refuse to recognise the webcam in subsequent attempts. You can reboot, delete the local config file, even purge/reinstall, but that camera won't be detected by Webcamoid again.

The problem does not occur with Cheese. (I'm not an advocate for Cheese; I mention it to show it is a Webcamoid problem.)

(Added)
To make certain this wasn't an MX Linux problem, I tested it the same way with Linux Mint, and had the same failure.

I know that a lot of people have laptops with no built in webcam that have needed to buy a USB one during the pandemic; they will be pretty inconvenienced if it didn't work.

Chris

I cannot duplicate this, however its a little weird. I had to choose my camera from the "Configure Sources" dialog. my camera popups up in that dialog when I plug in it even if webcamoid is running.

note that as far as I can tell, the preferences dialog does not allow switching. you have to use the Configure Sources dialogs.

[richb]

If I close webcamoid , disconnect the camera and reconnect it. then relaunch webcamoid it again shows up. Again this in MX 19.4. But if I just launch webcamoid without going through that process or leave it active while disconnecting and reconnecting the camera will not be recognized. or show up in the settings dialog.

Edit: I forgot to mention this is an external camera connected to a USB port on my desktop.

[dolphin_oracle]

If I close webcamoid , disconnect the camera and reconnect it. then relaunch webcamoid it again shows up. Again this in MX 19.4. But if I just launch webcamoid without going through that process or leave it active while disconnecting and reconnecting the camera will not be recognized. or show up in the settings dialog.

Edit: I forgot to mention this is an external camera connected to a USB port on my desktop.

You checked both preferences and configure sources?

[richb]

Missed configure sources. I will go through the scenario again.

EDIT: OK tt was found in the configure sources list and reconnected. Sorry for the confusion on my part.

[dolphin_oracle]

Missed configure sources. I will go through the scenario again.

EDIT: OK tt was found in the configure sources list and reconnected. Sorry for the confusion on my part.

is good, its not immediately obvious.

I put an arrow in my screenshot on what button to hit for those wondering.

Working for me too now after understanding the process.

Why on earth does Webcamoid not automatically detect the presence of the camera, at least if only one is detected?

Chris

[3.14r]

Hello, I use DeepL translator to communicate from French to English. Thank you for your understanding if something seems strange in my text.
I am a new Linux user and I installed MX Linux 19.4 on my PC a few days ago. I'm very excited about your distribution. I am testing MX 21 on a 16G usb stick. I quickly share this experience with you.

I created a 16G usb stick with MX Live usb Maker.
MX-21_beta1_64.iso
- full-featured mode-writable LiveUSB
% 100
MX Live usb Maker is very fast to create the key: 1m 27s

When I restarted my PC, I chose UEFI.
Setting language-keyboard-time zone was fine.
A suggestion I make is to classify the keyboards like this:
exemple
kbd fr : français France
kbd fr : français Canada
kbd fr : français Suisse
kbd en : english US
kbd en : english UK
etc..

Advanced options
persist-static root and home separate on the usb device
grubsave or gfxsave????
I don't know the difference at all, a little explanation would have been nice. I chose randomly: gfxsave
I saved the options and the boot screen said at the bottom left of the screen: UEFI

In console mode, before the first boot, I created
default rootfs = 6G
homefs default = 1,66G
swap = my choice = 4G
The homefs partition is not really useful for the moment because I am only testing the persistence of the MX Linux system on a USB stick.
And I started from those options.
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I updated the system in console mode right away to check the "persistence" on my flash drive.

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$ su -

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# apt-get update

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# apt-get dist-upgrade

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# apt-get autoclean

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# reboot

The system worked hard and updated itself.
The persistence is fully operational, the system is ok after the reboot.
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My observations:
Creation of the usb key with MX Live usb Maker very fast and intuitive.
The configuration of the options at the first startup of the USB flash drive is a little confusing for a beginner because the options are numerous. I had to study a bit to make a persistent flash drive and the information is not much. I made many attempts and many mistakes to get it right.

But now that I understand a little bit better, I find the process of installing a Linux MX distribution very fast and efficient. You have to persevere if you are a beginner like me.

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System:
  Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash lang=fr_CA 
  kbd=ca tz=America/Montreal persist_static 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 
  dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21_beta1_x64 Wildflower July 27  2021 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: Z87M Pro4 serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: American Megatrends v: P2.10 date: 12/06/2013 
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M510 
  serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes 
  status: Discharging 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-4590 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Haswell family: 6 model-id: 3C (60) stepping: 3 microcode: 17 
  L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 26393 
  Speed: 1324 MHz min/max: 800/3700 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2373 2: 1901 
  3: 2031 4: 2305 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
  Type: l1tf 
  mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled 
  Type: mds 
  status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 
  mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
  Type: tsx_async_abort 
  status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] vendor: ZOTAC driver: nouveau 
  v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1401 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: modesetting 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1200~60Hz, 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: NV126 v: 4.3 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: ASRock 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:8c20 
  Device-2: NVIDIA GM206 High Definition Audio vendor: ZOTAC 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0fba 
  Device-3: Focusrite-Novation Scarlett Solo (3rd Gen.) type: USB 
  driver: snd-usb-audio bus ID: 3-1:2 chip ID: 1235:8211 serial: <filter> 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I217-V vendor: ASRock driver: e1000e v: kernel 
  port: f040 bus ID: 00:19.0 chip ID: 8086:153b 
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.15 TiB used: 8.62 GiB (0.7%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 840 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB 
  block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
  serial: <filter> rev: BB6Q scheme: MBR 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Toshiba model: DT01ACA100 size: 931.51 GiB 
  block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
  rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> rev: A750 scheme: MBR 
  ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB model: General USB Flash Disk size: 14.55 GiB 
  block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1100 
  scheme: MBR 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 5.82 GiB used: 1.31 GiB (22.5%) fs: overlay 
  source: ERR-102 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 35.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 40 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nouveau fan: 0 
Repos:
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:
  Processes: 210 Uptime: 1h 05m Memory: 15.57 GiB used: 1.35 GiB (8.7%) 
  Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
  alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

I'm going to test the software of the distribution now but I'm already very satisfied with the version 19.4 so I'm convinced that the version 21 can only be better.
I take advantage of my message to congratulate all the people who contribute to the MX Linux adventure. Congratulations!
Pierre
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[i_ri]

hello everyone
tossing wildflower fling distraction pre-poppy
Wildflower wearing its beta hat.

[redhawk]

MX 21 installed 28.07.2021 work as primary OS without problems.
no problem with PC and used SW (Corel Aftershot pro, Darktable, GIMP, LO, Mixx).
no problem with games (Legend of Grimrock (nixinstaller), CnC Tiberian Sun, OpenRA, 0AD, ShadowRun Returns)
PC:

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-8-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_beta1_x64 Wildflower July 27  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: H81M-ITX serial: <filter> 
           UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: P2.40 date: 03/12/2018 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium G3240 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Haswell 
           family: 6 model-id: 3C (60) stepping: 3 microcode: 28 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 12395 
           Speed: 3046 MHz min/max: 800/3100 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2953 2: 2780 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
           STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics 
           vendor: ASRock driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0402 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 710] vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: nouveau 
           v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:128b 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1600x1200~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: NV106 v: 4.3 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio vendor: ASRock 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 chip ID: 8086:0c0c 
           Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: ASRock 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:8c20 
           Device-3: NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0e0f 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA8171 Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASRock driver: alx 
           v: kernel port: d000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 1969:10a1 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 6.07 GiB (0.7%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM003-1SB102 size: 931.51 GiB block size: 
           physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> 
           rev: HPH4 temp: 38 C scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 18.66 GiB size: 18.20 GiB (97.53%) used: 6.05 GiB (33.2%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda10 
           ID-2: /home raw size: 22.87 GiB size: 22.35 GiB (97.70%) used: 23.0 MiB (0.1%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda9 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 2.15 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda8 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 39 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://tux.rainside.sk/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 202 Uptime: 8m Memory: 7.67 GiB used: 817.8 MiB (10.4%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

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