MX-21 beta 1 feedback thread

[agnivo007]

Even after updating sensors plugin today, the hddtemp error is not fixed while adding it in the panel.

[SwampRabbit]

Regarding Docklike Taskbar, there's no simple or intuitive way to rearrange the order of docked apps. You have to manually edit them in ~/.config/xfce4/panel/docklike-#.rc. Could a GUI applet be made as a front-end for editing the order of pinned apps? That would be a lot easier for Linux newbies and those who aren't comfortable with editing configuration files.

Jay, you can move them with CTRL+left mouse button, and drag it.... its in the wiki. But I admit, right now there is a bug which only allows moving them up, not down... and sure its not as intuitive as Windows Buttons because you can drag and drop them if that setting is set.

Honestly I don't think features will be added, just bug fixes hopefully. If someone wants more features... they better start sending commits to the git repo.

The biggest thing with xfce4-docklike-plugin over its lifetime has been so many people bombarded the original developer with wants/needs, that they pretty much walked away from it.
Not many people want to contribute the thing, but lots of people want this and that from it. We were lucky that someone else came along to take it over and its finally made its way into the Xfce GitLab Repo. A 14yr kid did a ton of work on our initial stab at it. Heck, I was doing translations for it because no one wanted to.

Sorry, I'm not trying to take anything out on you boss, just frustrated because its so close to a perfect replacement... it just needs some more time and contributions.

If anything we just go back to good 'ol Windows Buttons for release.

What some people may not realize is that this thing has really gotten better despite it still having bugs, here's the first entry in the packaging change log

xfce4-mxdock-plugin (0.0.1-1~mx19+1) mx; urgency=medium

* Initial packaging of upstream version for MX 19.
* Debianization of package

-- ”SwampRabbit” <a rabbit @ swamp> Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:31:04 -0400

I've even tried to $ people to put some time helping with it... but nope no one wants to work on it.... guess I can't compete with all the stimulus checks gaven out in the U.S.

[Shifu]

I have to admit the CSD apps are looking good. I'm experimenting with the greybird scheme and I think it all looks quite handsome, which is a big shift for me.

[SwampRabbit]

Even after updating sensors plugin today, the hddtemp error is not fixed while adding it in the panel.

It has to be something specific with your system, did you configure sensors through the terminal yet?

I purposely tested this on 3 different physical systems 2 AMD and 1 Intel to verify. All I did was install then open the darn thing and test all the options... everything reported and displayed fine.

I need verification from more people before I spend any more time packaging new versions of this, I've already gone 2 versions above the Debian Bullseye version, and I've see no changes in function.

[i_ri]

hello dolphin_oracle
running a dockapp. used wmmoonclock for example.
Panel Using Window Buttons the dockapp right click on dockapp icon opens a context windowmenu for the dockapp window includes "Move"
Panel Using Docklike Taskbar there is no right-click on dockapp icon action. No windowmenu available for dockapp window. "Move" is not available.

[SwampRabbit]

hello dolphin_oracle
running a dockapp. used wmmoonclock for example.
Panel Using Window Buttons the dockapp right click on dockapp icon opens a context windowmenu for the dockapp window includes "Move"
Panel Using Docklike Taskbar there is no right-click on dockapp icon action. No windowmenu available for dockapp window. "Move" is not available.

yes there is, you just have to know where to click, there is clicking between the icons and clicking on the icons.
the options can also be found under MX Tweak, this was posted several times now
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/docklike-taskbar/

open a terminal and right click it see what happens, you get "Pin to Dock, Edit Launcher, Terminal Preferences", etc, etc

right click in between two icons, you'll see Properties, About, Move, Remove

[gmt]

it is.

[SwampRabbit]

it is.

no it is not

if it was it would look like this

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System: Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.10.0-8-amd64
root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash usbcore.autosuspend=-1
init=/lib/systemd/systemd
Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0
Distro: MX-21_beta1_x64 Wildflower July 27 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Machine: Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: 500-141ea v: N/A serial: <filter>
Chassis: type: 3 serial: <filter>
Mobo: MSI model: 2AE0 v: 1.0 serial: <filter> UEFI: AMI v: 80.46 date: 10/03/2013
CPU: Topology: Quad Core model: AMD A8-6500 APU with Radeon HD Graphics bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Piledriver family: 15 (21) model-id: 13 (19) stepping: 1 microcode: 6001119
L2 cache: 2048 KiB
flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 27944
Speed: 3493 MHz min/max: 1700/3500 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3493
2: 3493 3: 3493 4: 3493
Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass
mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics: Device-1: AMD Richland [Radeon HD 8570D] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: radeon
v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.0 chip ID: 1002:990e
Device-2: AMD Caicos XT [Radeon HD 7470/8470 / R5 235/310 OEM] vendor: Micro-Star MSI
driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 1002:6778
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: ati,radeon
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.10.0-8-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1)
v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: AMD FCH Azalia vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID: 1022:780d
Device-2: DigiTech Lexicon Alpha type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio bus ID: 8-1:2
chip ID: 1210:000a
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64
Network: Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard
driver: alx v: kernel port: d000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 1969:1091
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
vendor: Hewlett-Packard AR9485/HB125 802.11bgn 1×1 Wi-Fi driver: ath9k v: kernel
port: d000 bus ID: 05:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0032
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Device-3: NetGear WNDA3100v2 802.11abgn [Broadcom BCM4323] type: USB
driver: usb-network bus ID: 1-1:2 chip ID: 0846:9011
Drives: Local Storage: total: 279.46 GiB used: 14.63 GiB (5.2%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST3300820SCE size: 279.46 GiB block size:
physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: E temp: 38 C
scheme: GPT
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 18.96 GiB size: 18.49 GiB (97.54%) used: 6.25 GiB (33.8%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/dm-0
ID-2: /boot raw size: 512.0 MiB size: 487.2 MiB (95.16%) used: 103.6 MiB (21.3%)
fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
ID-3: /home raw size: 252.07 GiB size: 247.05 GiB (98.01%) used: 8.27 GiB (3.3%)
fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-2
ID-4: swap-1 size: 7.61 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 10 (default 60)
cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/dm-1
Sensors: Missing: Required tool sensors not installed. Check --recommends
Repos: No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/megasync.list
1: deb https://mega.nz/linux/MEGAsync/Debian_testing/ ./
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Info: Processes: 236 Uptime: 23m Memory: 5.01 GiB used: 1.48 GiB (29.6%) Init: systemd
v: 247 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in
running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

[i_ri]

Hello SwampRabbit
"right click in between two icons, you'll see Properties, About, Move, Remove" it is controlling the docklike-panel-plugin. I do not want move of plugin; i want move of moonclock dockapp window. no right-click windowmenu for wmmoonclock in Docklike Taskbar.

[SwampRabbit]

Hello SwampRabbit
"right click in between two icons, you'll see Properties, About, Move, Remove" it is controlling the docklike-panel-plugin. I do not want move of plugin; i want move of moonclock dockapp window. no right-click windowmenu for wmmoonclock in Docklike Taskbar.

OH! I see what you are saying, its specific to window maker apps.

I'll bring it up to the developer of xfce4-docklike-plugin.