MX-21 beta 1 feedback thread

[Jerry3904]

What is that Thunar icon?
How anti-intuitive !

I tried different icon sets in the MX Tweak, but they are all the same for Thunar.
Can we get a new one?

That is on our list, in fact, we're just not far along yet.

[SwampRabbit]

What is that Thunar icon?
How anti-intuitive !

I tried different icon sets in the MX Tweak, but they are all the same for Thunar.
Can we get a new one?

That’s the stock icon for Xfce, like already stated that’s on the list of changes, you don’t have to ! about it.

It should be the home folder icon, it’ll get fixed soon.

[entropyfoe]

I understand it is the stock icon.

But what is it? What were the xfce folks thinking of?

[old_guy]

Thunar is the Old Saxon name of god of thunder in Norse mythology, and uses Mjölnir, Thor's hammer, as its icon.

[Jerry3904]

Right--which almost no one knows anything about (I actually studied Old Norse at one point, no idea why)! As a sign for "File manager" however it is IMO too clever by half.

[i_ri]

Hello fehlix
hold on to your hats, i hate to do this to you:
created a live media using rufus3.14.1788 and MX21 starts in WallE, p6330f.
full-featured mode from rufus goes past bios splash normally.

Yes nXecure 6330 WalllE is legacy bios, no uefi, and
the six usb media trials made with mx and antiX live-usb-maker do not get to the boot menu. It stops at the bios splash under any circumstance that the live media is plugged-in to the 6330 machine.
The same media will start in the other machines, asus tubb is legacy, hp8440 heap is uefi booting legacy, acer idca is booting uefi with a "secure boot" text in lower left displayed on the booting screen.

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: tz=America/Phoenix quiet splasht nosplash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_beta1_x64 Wildflower July 27  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: HP-Pavilion product: AY022AA-ABA p6330f v: N/A serial: <filter> 
           Chassis: Hewlett-Packard type: 3 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: MSI model: IONA v: 1.0 serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 5.15 
           date: 06/25/2010 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3 530 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem 
           family: 6 model-id: 25 (37) stepping: 2 microcode: 11 L2 cache: 4096 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 23411 
           Speed: 1237 MHz min/max: 1200/2933 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1347 2: 1233 3: 1294 
           4: 1334 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds 
           status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0042 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: intel resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:3b56 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d800 bus ID: 01:00.0 
           chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 14.91 GiB used: 2.09 GiB (14.0%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Glide size: 14.91 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR 
RAID:      Hardware-1: Intel SATA Controller [RAID mode] driver: ahci v: 3.0 port: c080 
           bus ID: 00:1f.2 chip ID: 8086.2822 rev: 06 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 6.06 GiB used: 428.0 MiB (6.9%) fs: overlay 
           source: ERR-102 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 37.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 212 Uptime: 26m Memory: 7.64 GiB used: 976.5 MiB (12.5%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 
Video Tweaks:
pre-sandybridge UXA acceleration

[oops]

RE: I have retested MX21 (amd64 and x86) and so far I have not find some issue, so congratulations.
Only missing for me are (Orage, the ical (.ics). calendar, (disk-manager already said and the alternative is gnome-utilities), and a useful tool for all .deb : multibootusb_python3/python3-multibootusb_9.2.0-1_all.deb

[fehlix]

created a live media using rufus3.14.1788 and MX21 starts in WallE, p6330f.
full-featured mode from rufus goes past bios splash normally.

Good. The question was whether a boot parameter like blab=MX-Live-usb, which is the label
of the first (of two) partitions made by MX Live USB Maker, would have made it boot.

[dolphin_oracle]

@Stufe

Making my usual adjustments/preferences to MX, I found the following:
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2. using synaptic package manager to install proftpd-basic, gives an error in proftpd-basic. The error messages displayed are proftpd-core post installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1. proftpd-mod-crypto dependency problems - leaving unconfigured. proftpd-mod-wrap dependency problems - leaving unconfigured. proftpd-basic dependency problems - leaving unconfigured.
Looking through the details afterwards it seems that it can't run because the system was not booted with systemd. This appears to be the reason why core did not complete and everything else is dependent on core.
This didn't seem to be a problem with MX19 (though I may have changed something without realising/remembering).

the package maintainers of proftp have royally screwed it up. technically it still supports sysVinit and systemd,however, their maintainer postinst script still tries to enable the systemd service when systemd isn't running, and the script doesn't allow a graceful failure. the thing is actually set up, but hte package is not marked as such.

the short answer is to install the package while systemd is running. I think it will still work under sysVinit after. that's pretty sloppy work but no one at debian is going to notice since they use system.

there isn't much we can do about it on mx, except allow boot up with systemd, or supply our own proftpd packages with the postinst scripts fixed.

[SwampRabbit]

RE: I have retested MX21 (amd64 and x86) and so far I have not find some issue, so congratulations.
Only missing for me are (Orage, the ical (.ics). calendar, (disk-manager already said and the alternative is gnome-utilities), and a useful tool for all .deb : multibootusb_python3/python3-multibootusb_9.2.0-1_all.deb

Orage is dead, it’s probably never coming back unless someone picks it up, this will be for every Distro running Xfce 4.16.

python3-multibootusb Also seems abandoned by the developer, the GitHub has been stagnant almost a year and a half, the website has been taken over by someone as looks to be just a sink hole, a GitHub issue for it not working with MX-19 was opened back in November of last year.