MX-21 Xfce or KDE?

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Xfce or KDE?

I'm staying with Xfce
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63%
I'm staying with KDE
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20%
I'm moving to Xfce
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No votes
I'm moving to KDE
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No votes
Haven't decided
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7%
I'll have both DEs installed
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10%
 
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Huckleberry Finn

Re: MX-21 Xfce or KDE?

#11 Post by Huckleberry Finn »

Fluxbox ( & Xfce - already on 4.16).
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f.denys
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Re: MX-21 Xfce or KDE?

#12 Post by f.denys »

XFCE
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uncle mark
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Re: MX-21 Xfce or KDE?

#13 Post by uncle mark »

I'm staying with MX-19.4 (KDE)

It ain't broke, don't need up dating.
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Re: MX-21 Xfce or KDE?

#14 Post by j2mcgreg »

XFCE. From a productivity standpoint, I don't see a compelling difference that would make me switch.
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Re: MX-21 Xfce or KDE?

#15 Post by dreamer »

j2mcgreg wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:35 am XFCE. From a productivity standpoint, I don't see a compelling difference that would make me switch.
I agree. I hope MX devs can give us another MX 17/18/19 without CSDs and gtk2 integration for all the Qt and Python apps (uniform theming). It shouldn't be hard if they want to, however the damage Xfce devs did to "systray" might be harder to fix.
I think the recipe for success is found in MX 17/18/19. If users can make their MX-21 desktop look like their current desktop it will be a successful upgrade.
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Re: MX-21 Xfce or KDE?

#16 Post by asqwerth »

dreamer wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:45 am
j2mcgreg wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:35 am XFCE. From a productivity standpoint, I don't see a compelling difference that would make me switch.
I agree. I hope MX devs can give us another MX 17/18/19 without CSDs and gtk2 integration for all the Qt and Python apps (uniform theming). ....


So MX17-19 didn't have CSD apps? What about Archive Manager and simple-scan? :p
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Re: MX-21 Xfce or KDE?

#17 Post by SwampRabbit »

dreamer wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:45 am ... It shouldn't be hard if they want to....
Thanks for the offer, extra minds and hands on keyboards contributing to development would be a great thing. ;)

dreamer wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:45 am ... I hope MX devs can give us another MX 17/18/19 without CSDs and gtk2 integration for all the Qt and Python apps (uniform theming). ...
gtk2 is pretty much dead, mixing and matching is half the reason for things not being uniform, this should be better with MX-21 as Xfce 4.16 is gtk3.

dreamer wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:45 am ... however the damage Xfce devs did to "systray" might be harder to fix. ...
The Xfce 4.14 systray has a lot of issues (well some of it is panel based but yeah), transparent and auto theme switching of the icons is one of them, we have a patched version of the panel in the MX-19 Test Repo because of this. So far, I see no issues with the Xfce 4.16 tray we have in MX-21, then again some folks put in quite a bit of work into getting things ready for it.

dreamer wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:45 amIt shouldn't be hard if they want to,
... I think the recipe for success is found in MX 17/18/19. If users can make their MX-21 desktop look like their current desktop it will be a successful upgrade. ...
IMHO I don't think anyone will have major complaints about MX-21 Xfce, its going to be very successful.
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Re: MX-21 Xfce or KDE?

#18 Post by Sparky »

Although I have different laptops with XFCE, on my main desktop, I'm staying with KDE.
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Re: MX-21 Xfce or KDE?

#19 Post by seaken64 »

I have both installed. But I lean toward XFCE and use it most. I don't do much tweaking of themes. I think the defaults are great.

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Re: MX-21 Xfce or KDE?

#20 Post by entropyfoe »

I used to be a KDE guy, back in the Warren days.

But I am fully won over and adapted to XFCE now, so little reason to switch.
If XFCE is stable like on MX19, I will be happy.

The thought of testing the betas is getting exciting, a spare experimental partition is waiting for the beta iso. :happy:
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