Lightweight music player?

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malspa
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Re: Lightweight music player?

#31 Post by malspa »

I've played around with a bunch of music players. I ended up using VLC for some years, then switched to Audacious. Now mostly using DeaDBeeF. All on machines that have only 2 GB RAM (I still have 3 of them). I don't recall having any problems with any of the music players I've tried on those machines. But really, just install one and try it out. Not that big of a deal to switch to something else if you don't like what you're seeing.

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Re: Lightweight music player?

#32 Post by seaken64 »

Audacious is very good on memory. I use it on all my low powered systems. It does support "Libraries" through the file system. If you want more of a manager like Clementine than I would suggest Cantata.

Here is a thread from a couple of years ago on this subject:
viewtopic.php?f=108&t=49355&hilit=music+player

You should consider using memory better in general. If you want to stay with a memory hungry browser you will have fewer choices. But if you learn to use browser settings that use your memory better you can achieve better results. You can tweak your settings or use different browsers that use less memory. Many have the same features as FF or Chrome or use the same plugins.

If you try Fluxbox you'll be ahead of the game as far as initial memory use. Then you can tweak from there to get even less memory in use and then launch your browser and music player. I do this all the time on equipment much more limited than your's. Two core and 2GB of RAM is more than enough if you set it up right. I use Audacious or Cantata and SeaMonkey or Otter on old P-III systems with 512MB or less. On your equipment I would use MX Fluxbox and Slimjet or Chromium with Audacious.

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Re: Lightweight music player?

#33 Post by LionelZaylan »

What about writing one ourselves ?
We can use mpg123 , ogg123 etc., as backends and just develop the interface.

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Re: Lightweight music player?

#34 Post by kobaian »

Qmplay2 - you can think of it as a "lighter VLC" with an easy internet radio browser.
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Re: Lightweight music player?

#35 Post by wdscharff »

That was maybe once with QMPlay2 "easier than VLC."
My primary player is Pragha, which of course only plays music and no videos, Ram requirement around 100 mb.
VLC with the same playlist around 130mb and qmplay2 around 160mb.
It's even easier with cmus in xterm (around 50mb), cmus in xfce4-terminal is already around 80mb, the difference to Pragha would be too small for me to do without a nice GUI ;-}

Whereby the values fluctuate quite a bit >+/-10% with VLC and QMPlay2, depending on what is being played (mainly videos).

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Re: Lightweight music player?

#36 Post by radonrose »

LionelZaylan wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:15 am What about writing one ourselves ?
We can use mpg123 , ogg123 etc., as backends and just develop the interface.
Is there really the need for another media player though?

As for QMPlay2, installation from the stable repos gives this error message:

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qmplay2 : Depends: libva-glx2 (>= 1.0.3) but it is not going to be installed
Which in turn won't be installed because:

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libva-glx2 : Depends: libva2 (< 2.4.0.1) but 2.6.1-1mx19+1 is to be installed
An AppImage can be found here, but this probably beats the "lightweight" criterion. I'm giving a go on most players suggested here, and QMPlay2 seemed promising.

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Re: Lightweight music player?

#37 Post by tony37 »

@radonrose in your case you have libva packages from the MX test repo, and you would first need to install libva-glx2 from there

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Re: Lightweight music player?

#38 Post by ceeslans »

seaken64 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 1:05 pm Audacious is very good on memory. I use it on all my low powered systems. It does support "Libraries" through the file system. If you want more of a manager like Clementine than I would suggest Cantata.
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Re: Lightweight music player?

#39 Post by LU344928 »

Another vote for Audacious. As others have stated it's quite lightweight and I particularly like the Winamp interface option as that was my preferred player while on that other OS.

In one way it performs better than Clementine. There's one mp3 which plays normally on Audacious but when Clementine encounters it an error message is displayed and it skips to the next track. It's just this one mp3, all others it plays no probs. The only way this track differs from the rest is that it was ripped from a video using VLC, though I'm not sure if that's the cause. There's probably an easy fix with a wave editor but I just haven't got around to trying that yet.

However, Clementine is still rather appealing and I continue to use it, just not as much. I like the (default) option to fade out when you stop before the end of a song, easier on the ears than an abrupt halt. If Audacious had that then it would be near perfect.
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Re: Lightweight music player?

#40 Post by pianokeyjoe »

I will concur that Audacious is the best choice for a light weight multi format MUSIC player with built in library and playlist functions that blends in perfectly with the OS, and the GUI interface. It works great on your Netbook. I respun my MX 19.3 32bit to only have Audacious as the only media player for a HP T5740 thin client machine that ONLY uses flash disk as the main hard drive BUT that device can accept a regular laptop HDD with an add on and it can also accept 4GB ram which is more than enough for a 32bit OS. But my HP netbook that is like yours, has that 32GB built in flash disk and built in 2GB ram. Without a swap space, the OS will run out of ram after playing so many files.. So the lighter the GUI and apps that run concurrently are, the better off you are. Finding the lightest MP3 player is all well and good and mpg123 with a script is as light as you can get, but the hardware limitation of the NETBOOK, is the main hurdle. In the end, you will also run into issues with the built in BATTERY too. Like with modern Apple Macbooks and ipads, this too will be limiting factor. But for the mean time as a fin project for listening to music while you work, it will do fine with MX 19.3 and audacious in fluxbox as is suggested here. I am just throwing that warning for later issues with the hardware, not the software..
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