BeeBeep (LAN Messenger) does not work after installation

[SwampRabbit]

Oh and you want to follow the instructions for Debian Snaps, MX is based on Debian not Linux Mint. Not sure if they are different but something to remember.

[Moltke]

First, Everybody just chill a bit here.

Lets make some things a bit more clear and laid out since there is some confusion. Especially around the term "support".
Potential for installation and usability does not equal "support". Linux Distros do not "support" applications just because it can be installed in some way shape or form.
Linux Distros support applications by creating and "maintaining" a package of the application from start to finish (dependency resolution, testing, troubleshooting, and updating). A "Package Maintainer" they are about as close to official "support" as you'll get (besides the actual application developer) because they volunteer to take responsibility of the said application package for the Distro. Users and in our case Qualified Guides also help "support" by testing and troubleshooting.

Yes, you're right. I agree, the word "support" seemed to me like "you can't install this" not that MX team won't take any responsibility for whatever happens to our systems after installing X app.

@Moltke appreciate you're help with this, really. But please do not state that MX "supports" an application just because it can be installed one way or another. "Installs and works under/with" and "Supports" are two different things. Neither MX nor Debian directly "support" BeeBEEP. It can confuse new users. Also, pretty sure JayM tried the .deb, but told the OP to attempt to use the Portable version (which he did also test) because of the fact that it can help limit breakage from randomly trying things like the OP has now done by enabling (unknown said) repos.

Edited for Distros "used by" users

When I said that MX "supports" BeeBeep, I meant that it can be installed, not that you, MX team will take any responsibility should things go wrong. I use it, so I know it works, and that's all I meant; it can be installed and it works. I've been using it like for a year or so, and so far no issues whatsoever, though ike I said before, latest one does complain about "QT_5.12 not found".

[Michael_Logies]

@Michael_Logies Fully understand the need. But I like said the Snap package will (should) work OOTB with MX if you boot with systemd.

The machine is not important enough to fiddle around with it more. It`s only used for RDP to a Windows machine, for internal communication with BeeBeep. Yesterday I switched to Linux because the Windows on this machine did not boot any more, only an error message from BIOS. So I needed a quick replacement, because its SSD and Windows license seemed to be gone. Today I discovered, that I installed MX on the "defect SSD", not on the external SSD as I thought... Under Windows, after a driver update, the Intel graphic driver (Shuttle DX30) did not wake up from energy saving the last months, which was already annoying. On MX and Mint energy saving works, again.

As far as the portable version not working, please let us know which specific one you tried? And reread JayM’s post as he said it worked kinda easily.

beebeep-5.8.4-qt5-amd64.tar.gz did not work for me. Interesting enough, the version from the Snap package, which now runs on Linux Mint, is BeeBeep 5.8.2...

I am interested in the fact that you are using MX in a business environment, but a discussion for another time.

I`m a small business owner and dentist with 4-5 employees, about 10 PCs (Windows, Chrome OS, Linux) in office and at home. My central PC is a virtualized (VMWare Player) Windows 10 Professional (16 GB RAM), which works as a terminal server (e. g. Thinstuff) for 5-6 people and for almost all my needs in business and private life. The hardware of the terminal server is a refurbished Dell workstation (32 GB ECC-RAM, Xeon E5-1620v2), running 24/7 in my office, with SSD-RAID1 (still Win 10 for host, because RAID1 on Linux MX is too difficult for me, though MX runs VMWare Player faster than Win 10 does), weekly backups/copies of the full VM. On the host besides the Win-VM runs a Linux MX-VM with an XRDP-Server as a secure surf environment for my employees - on Windows I blocked their internet access with Sandboxie. So within their Windows-RDP session, till now running on some Windows clients (roaming RDP-sessions), they open a Linux MX surf session for orders etc.
Another mainstay ist Hamachi (on Linux: plus Haguichi), which allows to use the Windows-VM over RDP from outside office. The kids are using Chrome OS-boxes. On the road I have a Chromebook (Lenovo IdeaPad Duet) with a Linux subsystem for Hamachi/Haguichi, so that I can use Remmina for reaching my VM.
So I can use Linux only for limited tasks, because of a ton of legacy software for Windows. And legacy hardware, e. g. fingerprint reader. Support for them seems to be non existent:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/999508/ ... rprint-key
(Of course it helps that I have 30 years or so experience with DOS/Windows. Linux is much less familiar for me.)

[mastro]

Hello.
I have created a BeeBEEP version 5.8.4 with Qt 5.9 and it should works for MX Linux.
Try https://www.beebeep.net/download and download the Linux 64 bit 5.9 version.
Or try the direct link:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/beebee ... z/download

If you have problem with the installations please read
https://www.beebeep.net/help#install-linux

Thank you for your feedback!

[JayM]

FYI I'm pretty sure mastro is beepbeep's developer. (That's what I love about Linux and F/OSS! It reminds me of YouTube videos I've seen where singers react to fans' covers of their hits: the personal touch!)

[SwampRabbit]

@mastro thank you very much for addressing this and so quickly, very impressive!

I would still like to package this for our repos and am fully willing to do the work to get the Debian source folder/files.

That being said, I'm a bit embarrassed to say it, but I'm not very good as navigating in SourceForge so I could use some help.

I found what looks like where I need to start, where most of everything is needed to create the Debian source files from:
https://sourceforge.net/p/beebeep/code/ ... e/scripts/

Is this the right location to grab the source code to create packages from?

Between what you have in the debian_amd64 folder and beebeep_qt5_debian_amd64.dbp there is most of what goes into the debian source folder.
I think a full debian/control and debian/rules file is all that needs created.

One thing I noticed wasn't included (or better said is "couldn't find it") is specifics on all build dependencies.

Are these listed somewhere?
Here, maybe at the end of the file https://sourceforge.net/p/beebeep/code/ ... -LINUX.txt

Thanks again

[oops]

Interesting, I will try BeeBEEP too soon.

[mastro]

@SwampRabbit
Hi! I'm a very newbie in debian packaging. I used Debreate to build it.
The file .dbp is the source file for that program.
I have saved from Debreate the control file and some others in the folder debian_amd64.

Yes, you can find the latest releases in:
https://sourceforge.net/p/beebeep/code/ ... e/scripts/

These files are also included in SOURCE release in:
https://www.beebeep.net/download

One thing I noticed wasn't included (or better said is "couldn't find it") is specifics on all build dependencies.

I don't know if these specifics must go in the "control file"... so... if you can help me...
In the file README-LINUX.txt, [Developer Library] section, i added the packages to be install to build BeeBEEP from source:

For BeeBEEP Qt 5

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 # sudo apt-get install build-essential libgl1-mesa-dev libqt5x11extras5-dev libxcb-screensaver0-dev qt5-default qtmultimedia5-dev libqt5multimedia5-plugins libavahi-compat-libdnssd-dev

* if qt5-default is not available remove it and add these packages: qtbase5-dev qtchooser qt5-qmake qtbase-dev-tools

For BeeBEEP Qt 4

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# sudo apt-get install build-essential qt4-default libqt4-dev libqt4-core libqt4-gui libqt4-xml libxcb-screensaver0-dev libxcb-screensaver0 libavahi-compat-libdnssd-dev libphonon-dev libhunspell-dev

Thank you for your help and feedback.
If you can help me to create a "legal" debian package, I will be very grateful

[SwampRabbit]

@mastro great, that might just be everything we need! I can’t work on it just now, full time job stuff taking priority this coming week.

But I’ll probably spin up the “Debianization” sometime this coming week.