I want to make a frugal install of "mx1 4.19.0-12-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.152-1 (2020-10-18) x86_64" to place on flash drive, along with some "frugal Pups".
Do I use the same procedure as I would when using a "pup" to install a frugal pup to a flash drive? If not, can somebody please offer advice? Thank you.
Frugal install
Re: Frugal install
Our legacy boot loader (and customizing text menus for UEFI bootloader) give you an option to do a frugal install to any existing partition. It will do the frugal install for you automatically and set up the type of persistence you selected as well. Then it will boot into the frugal install it just created. Everything will go into a single directory with a name like "/MX-Frugal-4.19.0-12-amd64/". If you select a frugal boot from the same live-usb again then we will boot into the frugal install instead of creating a new one.
In that directory we also create a grub.entry file that contains a grub menu entry for booting into the frugal install. This is handy if you already have a grub bootloader for booting into your other frugal installs.
After you select a frugal install option then all you have to do is:
1) select the type of persistence you want to use (if any)
(you can change this later on every boot if you choose)
2) select the partition to install on from a menu
3) select the sizes of the persistence file(s) if you opted for persistence
We optionally allow you to set the label on the frugal partition so we can find it automatically when you're booting into frugal from the live media. And we offer to create a swap file for you. This is handy on encrypted-live-usbs because the swap file will also be encrypted.
On a fast device we recommend using static root persistence and no home persistence. The home directory will be saved as part of the static root.
I don't know how puppy does it but we tried to make the process on our system as fast and easy and streamlined as possible while also providing you with a plethora of options.
In that directory we also create a grub.entry file that contains a grub menu entry for booting into the frugal install. This is handy if you already have a grub bootloader for booting into your other frugal installs.
After you select a frugal install option then all you have to do is:
1) select the type of persistence you want to use (if any)
(you can change this later on every boot if you choose)
2) select the partition to install on from a menu
3) select the sizes of the persistence file(s) if you opted for persistence
We optionally allow you to set the label on the frugal partition so we can find it automatically when you're booting into frugal from the live media. And we offer to create a swap file for you. This is handy on encrypted-live-usbs because the swap file will also be encrypted.
On a fast device we recommend using static root persistence and no home persistence. The home directory will be saved as part of the static root.
I don't know how puppy does it but we tried to make the process on our system as fast and easy and streamlined as possible while also providing you with a plethora of options.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself -- and you are the easiest person to fool."
-- Richard Feynman
-- Richard Feynman
Re: Frugal install
Thank you for the (very quick) informative reply. I went into the MX19.3 pkg installer/MX Tools, and cannot find your legacy bootloader. FYI-with and from Puppy, on flash drive you make 2 partitions(ext4 for 1st part),2nd can be ext3 or 4,or fat32,or ntfs. Then make a directory in part1, with name of OS, for each OS that will be placed therein.Then you put the applicable files, such as vmlinux, sfs, init, into each directory. Then install(from the Puppy, Grub4dos Bootloader. And that is it. Will you pleads give me a link to your legacy bootloader? Thank you again very much.
Re: Frugal install
There is nothing to install! We do the automated frugal install from the live system at boot time. When you boot the live-usb the first thing you see is a bootloader. There is a legacy bootloader and a UEFI bootloader. When you make a live-usb, the bootloaders are already included on it. Just boot the live-usb then follow the simple instructions I gave. On a fast system I was able to do the frugal install and boot into the frugal system in under 20 seconds.tosim wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:08 pm Thank you for the (very quick) informative reply. I went into the MX19.3 pkg installer/MX Tools, and cannot find your legacy bootloader.
Thanks for this info! Perhaps we made it too easy because our process is automated and extremely fast. You just need to select "frugal" when you boot a live-usb and then answer a few questions as I outlined above.FYI-with and from Puppy, on flash drive you make 2 partitions(ext4 for 1st part),2nd can be ext3 or 4,or fat32,or ntfs. Then make a directory in part1, with name of OS, for each OS that will be placed therein.Then you put the applicable files, such as vmlinux, sfs, init, into each directory. Then install(from the Puppy, Grub4dos Bootloader.
I've attached a picture of the MX-18 live legacy bootloader with the function key menus outlined in red. If you are booting UFI then there will be no function key menus so you should choose the default "Customize" boot entry. This will give you a series of text menus to customize your live boot. I've attached a picture of what that looks like on our sister distro antiX.
Perhaps you are making this much more difficult than it needs to be. I honestly believe that if you just boot the live system, you could figure it all out in much less time than it took to have this conversation.
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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself -- and you are the easiest person to fool."
-- Richard Feynman
-- Richard Feynman
Re: Frugal install
OK. I believe I fully understand, and I will try it another day when I have more time. Once again, THANK YOU, so very much for your assistance.