MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

[MAYBL8]

Thought I would try the experimental. I have never used it before.
What do I need to do to install plasma from there?

[frmald]

Not a direct reply, but prepare for pain; I'm writing up my own writeup

[andyprough]

Thought I would try the experimental. I have never used it before.
What do I need to do to install plasma from there?

I do not know - I managed to brick my Experimental vm somehow. Started with all kinds of dependency problems, now there's no network. I'm trashing this one and starting over.

I would try installing plasma-desktop if you can get to that point. That's probably when you'll run into dependency hell, although hopefully you'll have a better time of it than me.

[andyprough]

Not a direct reply, but prepare for pain; I'm writing up my own writeup

Agreed, this attempt with Experimental has not been fun so far. Feel free to use this thread for your writeup if you like, I'm sure Dan and I would be glad to learn from your experiences.

[MAYBL8]

Not a direct reply, but prepare for pain; I'm writing up my own writeup

Does this write up take you from a standard MX install to experimental?

[MAYBL8]

So I tried this and this is what I am getting. I am sure I don't have something setup correctly.
I thought it was loaded into experimental so it should be able to be tested.

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root@mx-kde-sid:~# apt -t experimental install plasma-desktop
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 plasma-desktop : Depends: breeze (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: kactivitymanagerd (>= 5.20~) but 5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: kde-cli-tools (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: plasma-desktop-data (= 4:5.20.4-1) but 4:5.14.5.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: plasma-integration (>= 5.20~) but 5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: plasma-workspace (>= 4:5.20~) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: polkit-kde-agent-1 (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: qml-module-org-kde-qqc2desktopstyle (>= 5.58.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.29) but 2.28-10 is to be installed
                  Depends: libcrypt1 (>= 1:4.1.0) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libibus-1.0-5 (>= 1.5.16) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libkaccounts2 (>= 4:20.07.90) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libkf5activities5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5activitiesstats1 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5authcore5 (>= 5.74.0~) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libkf5baloo5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5configcore5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1+deb10u1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.74.0) but 5.54.0-1+deb10u1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5configwidgets5 (>= 5.74.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5coreaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5dbusaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5declarative5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5globalaccel5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5guiaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5i18n5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kcmutils5 (>= 5.74.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kdelibs4support5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiocore5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiofilewidgets5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiogui5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiowidgets5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5notifications5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5notifyconfig5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5plasma5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5plasmaquick5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5quickaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5runner5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5service5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5sonnetcore5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5sonnetui5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5wallet5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5widgetsaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5windowsystem5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5xmlgui5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkworkspace5-5 (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libnotificationmanager1 (>= 4:5.20~) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libprocesscore9 (>= 4:5.18.90) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5concurrent5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5core5a (>= 5.15.1) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5dbus5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5gui5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed or
                           libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.0~) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libqt5network5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5qml5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3-4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5quick5 (>= 5.15.1) but 5.11.3-4 is to be installed or
                           libqt5quick5-gles (>= 5.15.1) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5quickwidgets5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3-4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5sql5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.15.1) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5x11extras5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3-2 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5xml5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libtaskmanager6abi1 (>= 4:5.20~) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libxkbfile1 (>= 1:1.1.0) but 1:1.0.9-2+b11 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

[andyprough]

So I tried this and this is what I am getting. I am sure I don't have something setup correctly.
I thought it was loaded into experimental so it should be able to be tested.

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root@mx-kde-sid:~# apt -t experimental install plasma-desktop
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 plasma-desktop : Depends: breeze (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: kactivitymanagerd (>= 5.20~) but 5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: kde-cli-tools (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: plasma-desktop-data (= 4:5.20.4-1) but 4:5.14.5.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: plasma-integration (>= 5.20~) but 5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: plasma-workspace (>= 4:5.20~) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: polkit-kde-agent-1 (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: qml-module-org-kde-qqc2desktopstyle (>= 5.58.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.29) but 2.28-10 is to be installed
                  Depends: libcrypt1 (>= 1:4.1.0) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libibus-1.0-5 (>= 1.5.16) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libkaccounts2 (>= 4:20.07.90) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libkf5activities5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5activitiesstats1 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5authcore5 (>= 5.74.0~) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libkf5baloo5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5configcore5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1+deb10u1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.74.0) but 5.54.0-1+deb10u1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5configwidgets5 (>= 5.74.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5coreaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5dbusaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5declarative5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5globalaccel5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5guiaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5i18n5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kcmutils5 (>= 5.74.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kdelibs4support5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiocore5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiofilewidgets5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiogui5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiowidgets5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5notifications5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5notifyconfig5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5plasma5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5plasmaquick5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5quickaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5runner5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5service5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5sonnetcore5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5sonnetui5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5wallet5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5widgetsaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5windowsystem5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5xmlgui5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkworkspace5-5 (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libnotificationmanager1 (>= 4:5.20~) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libprocesscore9 (>= 4:5.18.90) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5concurrent5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5core5a (>= 5.15.1) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5dbus5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5gui5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed or
                           libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.0~) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libqt5network5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5qml5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3-4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5quick5 (>= 5.15.1) but 5.11.3-4 is to be installed or
                           libqt5quick5-gles (>= 5.15.1) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5quickwidgets5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3-4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5sql5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.15.1) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5x11extras5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3-2 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5xml5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libtaskmanager6abi1 (>= 4:5.20~) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libxkbfile1 (>= 1:1.1.0) but 1:1.0.9-2+b11 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

This is strange. It looks to me like your system is not looking to Experimental for dependencies. Could be that there's more to the command than just "apt -t experimental install plasma-desktop". There must be an option for telling apt to look for dependencies from Experimental that I'm missing.

[MAYBL8]

I'm sure this is wrong but all I did was change the debian.list to experimental:

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 

[andyprough]

I'm sure this is wrong but all I did was change the debian.list to experimental:

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 

You are mixing Experimental with Debian buster-updates. Experimental requires Sid repos in order fulfill dependencies. And Experimental can't be the main repo - that has to be Sid. Experimental is just an add-on repo to Sid.

[MAYBL8]

ok making this change:

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 

resulted in this change:

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$ sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc6-dev : Breaks: libgcc-8-dev (< 8.4.0-2~) but 8.3.0-6 is to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.