First release? Proof of concept? Hell, this is my daily driver for the next five years.Adrian wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:29 pm We of course considered that, but there are Qt library problems. From what I've heard from packagers we'd have to have KDE on different Qt library then the rest of Debian Buster applications. We don't subject our users to breakage just to have a higher version number. Also, this is a first release and more of a proof of concept (also to gauge the interest), we can make other decisions for MX-20, this was supposed to be up to par release (although delayed) with MX-19.2 Xfce.
Dedoimedo on MXLinux KDE
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I think its clickbat, just using "MX" "KDE" and "Missing in action" gets him tons of hits.
Ripping on the KDE version is why I initially said its "unrealistic".
Is he going to rip on Debian Stable for it too? Gimme a break.
Ripping on the KDE version is why I initially said its "unrealistic".
Is he going to rip on Debian Stable for it too? Gimme a break.
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Uncle Mark, even if the only gain was bringing you and a couple of KDE users back it was all worth it and our effort is well repaid regardless of such reviews.uncle mark wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:38 pmFirst release? Proof of concept? Hell, this is my daily driver for the next five years.Adrian wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:29 pm We of course considered that, but there are Qt library problems. From what I've heard from packagers we'd have to have KDE on different Qt library then the rest of Debian Buster applications. We don't subject our users to breakage just to have a higher version number. Also, this is a first release and more of a proof of concept (also to gauge the interest), we can make other decisions for MX-20, this was supposed to be up to par release (although delayed) with MX-19.2 Xfce.
Re: Dedoimedo on MXLinux KDE
Although I never left, it got me back to KDE. Never doubt that it was worth the effort. I am sure there are dedicated fans.
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He's wrong about the pinning thing being a bug.
There are 2 ways of placing launchers on the panel, from what I can see. MX-KDE used the actual "place launcher on panel" method. In this method, launcher is different from the opened window, so you seemingly get 2 icons. If you use the "pin to task manager" method, then clicking on the pinned app will open it and the pinned icon disappears when the app is opened so you only get the opened window icon. So they are actually 2 different things.
Apart from that, since it was essentially just a short note about how he's not going to review an older Plasma, I'm not bothered by it. The "older" thing was expected, although like Adrian says, that's just how Debian Stable is, with regard to desktop environment versions.
There are 2 ways of placing launchers on the panel, from what I can see. MX-KDE used the actual "place launcher on panel" method. In this method, launcher is different from the opened window, so you seemingly get 2 icons. If you use the "pin to task manager" method, then clicking on the pinned app will open it and the pinned icon disappears when the app is opened so you only get the opened window icon. So they are actually 2 different things.
Apart from that, since it was essentially just a short note about how he's not going to review an older Plasma, I'm not bothered by it. The "older" thing was expected, although like Adrian says, that's just how Debian Stable is, with regard to desktop environment versions.
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Re: Dedoimedo on MXLinux KDE
Hi,
I read the review and to be honest I have the ISO file in my downloads folder but haven't installed it yet so I can't really comment specifically on the KDE version... however
I'm still very new here and have watched from afar for years, MX seems rooted in many pillar virtues (common sense, compatibility, long-term support, foresight, focus on the existing community here rather than the potential future community which may never materialize etc etc.). In our back asswards world those are not the sexy virtues that get positive press nearly often enough but day after day they get the job done 24/7... Nobody likes a bad review (I've seen my share for my own project) but so often bad reviews are about poor research preparation and unrealistic or uninformed expectations by the reviewer.. These things sting a bit, but I love the single minded focus and purpose of this project, it may not be shiny or jump out immediately but those who will peek beyond the veneer will be well rewarded!
I read the review and to be honest I have the ISO file in my downloads folder but haven't installed it yet so I can't really comment specifically on the KDE version... however
I'm still very new here and have watched from afar for years, MX seems rooted in many pillar virtues (common sense, compatibility, long-term support, foresight, focus on the existing community here rather than the potential future community which may never materialize etc etc.). In our back asswards world those are not the sexy virtues that get positive press nearly often enough but day after day they get the job done 24/7... Nobody likes a bad review (I've seen my share for my own project) but so often bad reviews are about poor research preparation and unrealistic or uninformed expectations by the reviewer.. These things sting a bit, but I love the single minded focus and purpose of this project, it may not be shiny or jump out immediately but those who will peek beyond the veneer will be well rewarded!
Re: Dedoimedo on MXLinux KDE
.. be interesting to see his top 5 or 10 favoritesThere are already way too many distros, distro spins and distro editions out there. Roughly 90% too many.
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You might rethink that once I get limbered up...Adrian wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:56 pmUncle Mark, even if the only gain was bringing you and a couple of KDE users back it was all worth it and our effort is well repaid regardless of such reviews.uncle mark wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:38 pm First release? Proof of concept? Hell, this is my daily driver for the next five years.
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Toshiba Satellite C55 -- MX 18.3 Xfce
Assorted Junk -- assorted Linuxes
Re: Dedoimedo on MXLinux KDE
Guy seemed in a bad mood from the start, and perhaps has burned out on Linux.
The small font thing has always been an issue with kde. Not really surprising. It's the first thing I change.
For me MX KDE scratches a nostalgia itch, but more than that--it works great and offers a nice alternative to the regular MX release.
The small font thing has always been an issue with kde. Not really surprising. It's the first thing I change.
For me MX KDE scratches a nostalgia itch, but more than that--it works great and offers a nice alternative to the regular MX release.
Re: Dedoimedo on MXLinux KDE
That's the most rubbish review ever, why did he bother even posting it? He sounds like a total n00b.
MX-KDE still has a way to go to reach the level of the Xfce version, but nothing he said there is at all pertinent.
MX-KDE still has a way to go to reach the level of the Xfce version, but nothing he said there is at all pertinent.