Booting MX-19 with runit

[aldQueiroz]

(...) I'm seriously tempted to change the current MX Linux 19-2 I'm configuring at that old Sempro CPU for antiX (replace the "Patito feo" for a "Roadrunner"!!!)

Yes, it is seriously fast. Zoom zoom.

Tell me, pal, how about the availability of apps in antiX repos? I saw it comes with LibreOffice 6.1.4, an older version than MX Linux default install, what's already sort of... outdated! In MX Linux we can get a later version of it using flatpack (from default flathub repository), what I didn't see at antiX live session... How about Zoom? I could name some few other apps of my interest (like iBus and/or fcixt, for multilingual input, which is a "must" to me) which I would make use...
In a second thought, I'm afraid I will not install antiX right now at that old computer I mentioned; not before I myself become acquainted with this system and its environment (ok, I could install XFCE, but if so, probably the general responsiveness wouldn't be so fast...!); but I'm planning to use this version of antiX_runit for a next upgrade of my own system (did I mention that I'll move it to a SSD?...)
Thanks again, andyprough! I look forward to exchange more knowledge with you all!!

[andyprough]

Tell me, pal, how about the availability of apps in antiX repos? I saw it comes with LibreOffice 6.1.4, as the se version as MX Linux default install, what's already sort of... outdated! In MX Linux we can get a later version of it using flatpack (from default flathub repository), what I didn't see at antiX live session... How about Zoom? I could name some few other apps of my interest (like iBus and/or fcixt, for multilingual input, which is a "must" to me) which I would make use...
In a second thought, I'm afraid I will not install antiX right now at that old computer I mentioned; not before I myself become acquainted with this system and its environment (ok, I could install XFCE, but if so, probably the general responsiveness wouldn't be so fast...!); but I'm planning to use this version of antiX_runit for a next upgrade of my own system (did I mention that I'll move it to a SSD?...)
Thanks again, andyprough! I look forward to exchange more knowledge with you all!!

antiX has its own package installer similar to MX Package Installer. I don't have it installed right now, so you will have to go through the various tabs and folders and see if the software you are looking for is available. Definitely one reason to stick with MX is that all the great software is at your fingertips. But, you wanted to use runit, so I recommended you at least try the antiX runit version before going through the trouble of getting and keeping MX running with runit.

As far as getting the latest LibreOffice - just download the debian package from the LibreOffice website, de-compress it, cd into the DEB folder, and

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sudo apt install ./*deb

Bam! You'll have the latest LibreOffice. Works on every Debian-based distro I've tried.

[anticapitalista]

Make sure you do a system upgrade either via the terminal, or synaptic or the antiX upgrader script/app under Menu > Applications > antiX.
Then, once you are up to date, use the package Installer app (just like you would/should) on MX Linux to install apps.
You have the option to install the very latest Libreoffice 7 version. Zoom is also installable via this app as is ibus/fcixt.
If you run antiX live with persistence (not dd as you did) then you can experiment on that stick with getting the system set up to how you want it, and then install to hard drive, Alternatively, just run permanently antiX live with persistence from the usb device.

https://antixlinux.com/the-most-extensi ... he-planet/

(Note the dates mentioned in that blog post. It shows how long antiX has been doing its live 'stuff' i.e. for over a decade now.)

[andyprough]

Make sure you do a system upgrade either via the terminal, or synaptic or the antiX upgrader script/app under Menu > Applications > antiX.
Then, once you are up to date, use the package Installer app (just like you would/should) on MX Linux to install apps.
You have the option to install the very latest Libreoffice 7 version. Zoom is also installable via this app as is ibus/fcixt.
If you run antiX live with persistence (not dd as you did) then you can experiment on that stick with getting the system set up to how you want it, and then install to hard drive, Alternatively, just run antiX live with persistence from the usb device.

https://antixlinux.com/the-most-extensi ... he-planet/

(Note the dates mentioned in that blog post. It shows how long antiX has been doing its live 'stuff' i.e. for over a decade now.)

Thank you anticapitalista. Normally I have a machine running antiX runit that I could answer questions from, but recently I converted that into an MX package building system.

@aldQueiroz - listen to anticapitalista - he is the founder and lead dev for antiX.

[fehlix]

In MX Linux we can get a later version of it using flatpack (from default flathub repository),

In MX Linux you can get latest LibreOffice version (currently 7.0.1) from MX Package Installer Populare Apps:

LO7-POP-APPS.png

EDIT: precised the comment to be applicable in MX Linux

[anticapitalista]

@fehlix - user is running antiX not MX. We do not have a flatpak install option in our version of package Installer (deliberately).

[aldQueiroz]

(...)
antiX has its own package installer similar to MX Package Installer. I don't have it installed right now, so you will have to go through the various tabs and folders and see if the software you are looking for is available. Definitely one reason to stick with MX is that all the great software is at your fingertips. But, you wanted to use runit, so I recommended you at least try the antiX runit version before going through the trouble of getting and keeping MX running with runit.

As far as getting the latest LibreOffice - just download the debian package from the LibreOffice website, de-compress it, cd into the DEB folder, and

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sudo apt install ./*deb

Bam! You'll have the latest LibreOffice. Works on every Debian-based distro I've tried.

Thanks, andyprough! I'm curious about runit since I knew Void Linux (which didn't become my first choice due to it's not meant for newbies, like me...), and I know runit grants boot times significantly shorter than SysVinit and others. But my biggest concern is responsiveness of the system! It's acceptable to wait around 30 seconds from boot until the system be ready to use, but it's a pain in the a...rchive (!) to wait up to 5 seconds to launch apps like LibreOffice! Or worse, click on a button and get some response within a gap of 2, 3 seconds!...
I've already installed LibreOffice and other apps using packages from the website, exactly because I needed the latest version. But, definitely, it isn't as easy as installing from the distro's repos (and, sometimes, it doesn't work due to missing dependencies...)

[aldQueiroz]

Make sure you do a system upgrade either via the terminal, or synaptic or the antiX upgrader script/app under Menu > Applications > antiX.
Then, once you are up to date, use the package Installer app (just like you would/should) on MX Linux to install apps.
You have the option to install the very latest Libreoffice 7 version. Zoom is also installable via this app as is ibus/fcixt.
If you run antiX live with persistence (not dd as you did) then you can experiment on that stick with getting the system set up to how you want it, and then install to hard drive, Alternatively, just run permanently antiX live with persistence from the usb device.

https://antixlinux.com/the-most-extensi ... he-planet/

(Note the dates mentioned in that blog post. It shows how long antiX has been doing its live 'stuff' i.e. for over a decade now.)

I'll check it out this minutely, anticapitalista! "Obrigado"!!

[aldQueiroz]

In MX Linux we can get a later version of it using flatpack (from default flathub repository),

In MX Linux you can get latest LibreOffice version (currently 7.0.1) from MX Package Installer Populare Apps:
LO7-POP-APPS.png
EDIT: precised the comment to be applicable in MX Linux

That was a recent update of LibreOffice package at MX Linux, wasn't it? The last time I saw it, the version available from Backports repo was still 6.4.5 (while the version from flatpack was 7.0.3; but the version available there now is 7.0.1-2, I don't know why...)

[aldQueiroz]

@fehlix - user is running antiX not MX. We do not have a flatpak install option in our version of package Installer (deliberately).

anticapitalista, I am considering antiX, runit version. But I am, currently, a MX user (after have been using Ubuntu, and Mageia)
I liked Mageia; its MCC (Mageia Control Center) is excellent! But, unfortunately, Mageia is adherent to systemd, which I "abhor" ! The same with Ubuntu (this last one has a lot of idiosyncrasies I bear no longer...). That's why I chose MX Linux; I wish a distro "systemd free", but still simple to install (sorry, Gentoo!) and configure (sorry, Void!...) and with a good portfolio of applications! If I knew sooner of antiX, probably I had chosen it!