MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

[norbert]

Are you mountain climbing up the inside of a waterfall Norbert?

Not **inside** but climbing up mountain streams, yes. The best thing one can do in the heat of the summer!

[andyprough]

Andy --

I have a specific goal I want to accomplish by getting an MX installation functioning with the latest KDE:

I use my computers in a business environment where I am constantly working with Microsoft Word and excel documents. My goal has been for years to get a file manager that has a preview pane comparable to what is available in windows. Dolphin allows that but I gather that only in the latest versions of KDE does the dolphin information panel actually display previews of excel and word documents. The PDF preview in the info panel has worked for a while, but I could never get word and excel files to show previews. Apparently even now Calligra must be installed alongside Dolphin in order for all the previews to work, but I have experimented with Manajaro and Kubuntu and I know that it can be made to work in the latest versions. Calligra may be a pale shadow of other competitors, but if it brings with it Word and Excel previews then I'll gladly keep it installed.

I am coming to the realization that flatpaks and appimages will in the future provide upgrade paths forward on major application programs, but I really want Dolphin running to full capacity with all available previews, and perhaps integration with Dropbox, etc. For that I need a base operating system that has the latest updates to KDE working properly, because the Flatpak version of Dolphin has few (if any) working previews. I haven't asked or tested the latest standard MX19.2KDE, but I am thinking that these previews I am talking about are probably not working in new KDE MX, given the older version of KDE that they are working with. I am willing and experienced enough to tweak things and am willing to treat your MXmodified on an "as is" basis with knowledge that it's extremely experimental

So I have two questions:

1 - Do you have Microsoft Word and Excel documents working in your latest version of your MX Modified installation?

2 - If so, do you have the snapshot system working, and do you have a snapshot available anywhere to download that I could test out?

Thanks very much!

Hi Nathan, no I'm not going to start sharing snapshots, my system is being held together with duct tape and glue, I'm afraid I would be handing you something you couldn't ever update or add packages to. Also, Dan and I found out that our systems were entirely incompatible - even if I made him a snapshot it wouldn't even boot on his machine. If you want to try it out though, just follow along with the instructions we've left here and continue to leave, and see where it gets you. It's quite fun if you have the time.

As far as the Dolphin previews for Word documents are concerned, I am not that impressed - they are really just a big icon (see screenshot). I could be doing something wrong, as this is not a topic I'm very much aware of, but if this is the "preview", it doesn't give me any useful visual info. I do have calligra installed. Maybe there are other packages or settings I need to work with to get previews actually showing something useful?

[andyprough]

Are you mountain climbing up the inside of a waterfall Norbert?

Not **inside** but climbing up mountain streams, yes. The best thing one can do in the heat of the summer!

Nice! That would be very welcome relief here in Texas, except our mountains are desert mountains. I'll bet we could do this in New Mexico though.

And I see you've been updating packages and one repo.

Dan, if you're reading this, there's a change to Norbert's "apps" repo: https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/08/ ... or-debian/

The repo is now going to be changed from "apps" to "apps2008":

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deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2008/Debian_Unstable/ ./

And the KDE 20.08 apps are now available! I've been upgrading tonight.

[norbert]

Yes, I have decided to switch to versioned repositories also for the apps, since every new major update requires quite some time to fix, adjust, and package.

I know it is a bit of a nuisance for the users, but it is more on the safe side for me ;-)

[nathan2423]

Andy no problem as to snapshots I understand. You are correct that you must be missing something on your installation as to the screenshot with the preview. On the latest KDEs I have seen (Manjaro for instance) both word documents and excel spreadsheets show as full and complete previews of the first page of the document, just like they do in the default File Explorer in Windows and many third party file managers in the windows world.

In my limited experience in order to get that to work you first have to have Calligra installed and then you get more options to check in Dolphin's preview files option box , including more Microsoft office file types.

In my experience the ability to scroll through a list of office document files and see a large readable preview on the right is a highly valuable feature, but in the Linux world only Dolphin seems interested in providing it, and only in the most recent versions.

[MAYBL8]

Did the update with the 2008 this morning. Got this message:

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Errors were encountered while processing:
 /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-jpWNZW/009-kdepim-runtime_4%3a20.08.0-1~np1_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

[andyprough]

Did the update with the 2008 this morning. Got this message:

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Errors were encountered while processing:
 /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-jpWNZW/009-kdepim-runtime_4%3a20.08.0-1~np1_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Yes I ran into the same error with kdepim-runtime

That seems to be part of the kmail back end. I uninstalled kmail and kdepim-runtime and maybe a couple of other kdepim packages, since I don't use kmail. I got it to the point where apt was happy again.

[MAYBL8]

I think I'm fixed:

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$ sudo apt --fix-broken install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  gparted-common libpoppler82
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  kdepim-runtime
The following packages will be upgraded:
  kdepim-runtime
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
171 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0 B/2,764 kB of archives.
After this operation, 26.6 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Retrieving bug reports... Done
Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
Reading changelogs... Done
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(Reading database ... 378566 files and directories currently installed.)
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I: (UUID=f6fbab94-169d-44c8-ae60-631a1f1e01e9)
I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
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update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.7.0-1-amd64
I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/nvme0n1p9
I: (UUID=f6fbab94-169d-44c8-ae60-631a1f1e01e9)
I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.

[andyprough]

I tried that a few times last night. Maybe someone fixed the package today. It's nice that most of these problems are short lived.

[norbert]

Did the update with the 2008 this morning. Got this message:

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Errors were encountered while processing:
 /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-jpWNZW/009-kdepim-runtime_4%3a20.08.0-1~np1_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Please, in such a case, look up in the terminal log for any previous errors. Normally this is a file conflict or similar. The last lines aren't helpful, there need to be some display of what went wrong before.