Distrowatch review grumbles

[rob.chaffe]

That's just based on click-throughs from DistroWatch to the distro's websites...

From:
https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity
They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch.com was accessed each day, nothing more.

Rob

[andyprough]

I don't trust the statistics of DistroWatch.

There's nothing not to trust. It's the average number of times someone clicks on a link each day. They've been amazingly consistent over the years. SuSE and RedHat and Debian fought for dominance in the early 2000's, and then Ubuntu landed on the scene and dominated for a number of years, and then Mint. In recent years it's been a battle for the top between Mint, Manjaro and MX, whose high per-day click numbers are backed up by the fact that those three distros are reviewed by DW readers more than twice as often as any other distro except Debian. Their numbers are thoroughly trustworthy.

[SwampRabbit]

It's the average number of times someone clicks on a link each day.

Not just that, but it is clicks per IP, so gaming the system is pretty hard. Which is why its funny when people say its rigged and what not.

MX may not be the most used, or most popular based on user installs and such, but we are obviously getting the most attention and interest.
You can look at the download stats too... those numbers are pretty amazing and reinforce the Distrowatch stats.

Just SourceForge - Downloads: 16,886 This Week ... and its only Wednesday lol.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mx-lin ... iod=weekly
The KDE release plays a big part in that, last week prior to the KDE release we only had 15,404, but that is still a big number for weekly downloads.

[Michael-IDA]

Just SourceForge - Downloads: 16,886 This Week ... and its only Wednesday lol.

And SourceForge downloads do not include any torrent downloads, correct? Meaning that the SourceForge is low too boot...

[SwampRabbit]

And SourceForge downloads do not include any torrent downloads, correct? Meaning that the SourceForge is low too boot...

I believe so, I seeded almost 17GB prior to stopping to use that particular computer for something else.
I don't track the torrent stats, but we do have them somewhere??? I do know that when I stopped I wasn't getting many leechers, maybe like 2-8 at a time. We had about 54 seeders.

I put the system seeding on a semi-open VLAN, but I think between me requiring encryption, and my one IPS likes to drop stuff in the null bucket a lot for 5-10mins at a time... I don't think I was an attractive seeder.
My wife tells me all the time that I am... but I don't trust her.

[Michael-IDA]

And SourceForge downloads do not include any torrent downloads, correct? Meaning that the SourceForge is low too boot...

My wife tells me all the time that I am... but I don't trust her.

*Snort*

These numbers are not reliable, half the numbers are missing, and these are the only 2 iso's I'm seeding. For what it's worth:

Code: Select all

MX-19.2_ahs_x64.iso
Peers Downloads Tracker
 250    N/A           http://l2.mxrepo.com:6969/announce
 129    232           http://it.mxrepo.com:6969/announce

MX-19.2_x64.iso
Peers Downloads Tracker
 693    N/A           http://l2.mxrepo.com:6969/announce
 200    691           http://it.mxrepo.com:6969/announce

[tony37]

It is noteworthy that the vast majority of distributions have been trending downward for several days, even with recent versions.

it's summer

[jj1j1]

It's the average number of times someone clicks on a link each day.

Not just that, but it is clicks per IP, so gaming the system is pretty hard. Which is why its funny when people say its rigged and what not.

MX may not be the most used, or most popular based on user installs and such, but we are obviously getting the most attention and interest.
You can look at the download stats too... those numbers are pretty amazing and reinforce the Distrowatch stats.

Just SourceForge - Downloads: 16,886 This Week ... and its only Wednesday lol.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mx-lin ... iod=weekly
The KDE release plays a big part in that, last week prior to the KDE release we only had 15,404, but that is still a big number for weekly downloads.

All a person/dev needs to do is spoof their ip and they can add clicks all day long.

[SwampRabbit]

All a person/dev needs to do is spoof their ip and they can add clicks all day long.

Ain't nobody got time to "spoof their ip" thousands of times a day to get hits on silly Distrowatch.
Do you even know the amount of work it would take to get the amount of public IPs needed to do this at the scale people are purposing? You're talking bot farm level. And I'm sure Jesse has it set up measures to stop a bombardment of hits coming in constantly, even with randomization, and timing space.

Also didn't you say you quit using MX and weren't going to come to the forums?

Edit: you didn't specifically state that, but you essentially stated you weren't going to use MX because of some strange thing you are trying to undo in the Firefox we ship.

[Jerry3904]

Agreed: why troll?

I have seen entire Twitter streams dedicated to the idea that the only explanation for our DW positions is that "everybody knows" that we game the system. Who here has time for that?!