MX-19.2 KDE RC 1 Feedback Thread

[baldyeti]

I get that antiX wants to stay slim, but doesn't make sense to me for MX.

this++

Mentioned before, e.g. here. Correct me if i am wrong but i do not think installing from the "popular packages" section has the "install recommends" check-box.

Anyway, congrats for the plasma-flavoured MX

[JayM]

Popular Applications does things differently. It installs things using scripts found in /usr/share/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist/ if I'm not mistaken. Those scripts in turn contain the apt commands. The stable, test and backports repos' tabs run the apt commands directly, in the case of the test and Debian backports repos first temporarily enabling those repos.

[bbfuller]

I'll look at Kmail to see if it can also be updated, but I get a feeling that it's too closely tied to a newer Plasma. But we ship T-bird anyway--why the fuss about Kmail?

I hadn't realised that Debian stayed that much behind. One of the instances where KMail just works runs Plasma 5.15.4 and KMail 5.11.0.

MX rc1 of course is on 5.14.5 and 5.9.3

As the person who started this friction can I just say that I like to run two email programs. One with my current email addresses (Thunderbird) and one with legacy addresses that I've never got round to fully abandoning. If there was an alternative to KMail that dealt with HTML mail decently I personally wouldn't worry about KMail. Or if I could easily run two instances of Thunderbird, which it doesn't support.

Without trying to be antagonistic or aggressive I'd just like to add that it seems an odd strategy to bring out a KDE based distribution where some of the KDE apps don't work. Surely the idea behind KDE being that you buy into an integrated environment where Mail integrates with Calendar and doubtless other examples as well.

[kangburra]

I'll look at Kmail to see if it can also be updated, but I get a feeling that it's too closely tied to a newer Plasma. But we ship T-bird anyway--why the fuss about Kmail?

I hadn't realised that Debian stayed that much behind. One of the instances where KMail just works runs Plasma 5.15.4 and KMail 5.11.0.

MX rc1 of course is on 5.14.5 and 5.9.3

As the person who started this friction can I just say that I like to run two email programs. One with my current email addresses (Thunderbird) and one with legacy addresses that I've never got round to fully abandoning. If there was an alternative to KMail that dealt with HTML mail decently I personally wouldn't worry about KMail. Or if I could easily run two instances of Thunderbird, which it doesn't support.

Without trying to be antagonistic or aggressive I'd just like to add that it seems an odd strategy to bring out a KDE based distribution where some of the KDE apps don't work. Surely the idea behind KDE being that you buy into an integrated environment where Mail integrates with Calendar and doubtless other examples as well.

I don't see the need to change everything to include recommded packages, many times I go to the command line to exclude them on other systems, maybe with the next release of kmail (the one with the HTML colour fix) we can include the account wizard.

[bbfuller]

It's not just the account wizard though is it.

It's the current KMail's inability to work with GMail and apparently from my attempts last evening, its inability to work with Yahoo Mail even with the "accountwizard" added manually.

[tony37]

It's not just the account wizard though is it.

It's the current KMail's inability to work with GMail and apparently from my attempts last evening, its inability to work with Yahoo Mail even with the "accountwizard" added manually.

I also had KMail not connecting to GMail on a more recent distro (Kubuntu 20.04). It used to work but at some point it stopped working.

Btw, there are still some leftover config files from not-installed Akonadi packages on RC1.

[bbfuller]

The KMail developer used to have a blog post where they apologised for KMail not working with GMail due to the correct procedure for linking the two not having been followed. That post disappeared sometime in the last six months and recent versions of KMail started working with GMail again.

Never had any trouble getting it to work with Yahoo before though.

[i_ri]

.**Ignore this post; determination: installed Image corrupt.
.**Thank you all for your help. i_ri "

Hello dolphin_oracle and everyone
From dd write iso Image install
MX 19ahs KDE_RC on

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System:    Host: heap8440p Kernel: 5.6.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 
           wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-19.2_KDE-RC1_x64 patito feo August 9  2020 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP EliteBook 8440p v: N/A serial: <root required> Chassis: type: 10 
           serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 172A v: KBC Version 30.35 serial: <root required> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard 
           v: 68CCU Ver. F.60 date: 11/11/2015 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 46.8 Wh condition: 46.8/46.8 Wh (100%) volts: 12.5/11.1 model: Hewlett-Packard Primary 
           type: Li-ion serial: 01595 2011/08/15 status: Full 
           Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard K360 serial: 4004-13-87-a8-bd 
           charge: 100% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5 M 560 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem rev: 5 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           bogomips: 21283 
           Speed: 2337 MHz min/max: 1199/2667 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2337 2: 1972 3: 2605 4: 2314 
           Flags: acpi aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov constant_tsc cpuid cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 
           dtherm dts est flush_l1d fpu fxsr ht ibpb ibrs ida lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae 
           pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pebs pge pni popcnt pse pse36 pti rdtscp rep_good sep smx ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 
           ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tsc vme xtopology xtpr 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           chip ID: 8086:0046 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel compositor: kwin_x11 resolution: 1600x900~60Hz, 1280x1024~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.0.7 direct render: Yes 
Network:   Device-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 5020 
           bus ID: 00:19.0 chip ID: 8086:10ea 
           Device-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 5000 bus ID: 43:00.0 chip ID: 8086:4239 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 14.91 GiB used: 6.57 GiB (44.1%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Glide size: 14.91 GiB speed: <unknown> 
           serial: 2006107973054D5273CF rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR 
Weather:   Message: No weather data found. Internet connection working? 
Info:      Processes: 188 Uptime: 12m Memory: 3.65 GiB used: 539.6 MiB (14.5%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 
           Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 running in: konsole inxi: 3.0.36 
Packages: 2348 (dpkg)
 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program

 92.0 KiB +  21.5 KiB = 113.5 KiB       start_kdeinit
176.0 KiB +  32.0 KiB = 208.0 KiB       acpid
188.0 KiB +  36.0 KiB = 224.0 KiB       acpi_fakekeyd
220.0 KiB +  28.5 KiB = 248.5 KiB       startkde
292.0 KiB +  51.5 KiB = 343.5 KiB       init
312.0 KiB +  71.0 KiB = 383.0 KiB       cron
436.0 KiB +  27.0 KiB = 463.0 KiB       mdadm
484.0 KiB +  39.0 KiB = 523.0 KiB       rpc.idmapd
588.0 KiB +  40.5 KiB = 628.5 KiB       ksysguardd
624.0 KiB +  70.0 KiB = 694.0 KiB       cgmanager
692.0 KiB +  36.0 KiB = 728.0 KiB       ssh-agent
540.0 KiB + 191.5 KiB = 731.5 KiB       rpcbind
516.0 KiB + 269.0 KiB = 785.0 KiB       kwrapper5
660.0 KiB + 237.5 KiB = 897.5 KiB       dconf-service
772.0 KiB + 211.0 KiB = 983.0 KiB       dbus-launch (2)
284.0 KiB + 720.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB       saned (2)
872.0 KiB + 178.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB       rpc.statd
432.0 KiB + 627.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB       avahi-daemon (2)
808.0 KiB + 367.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB       getty (6)
  1.1 MiB + 247.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB       sudo
  1.3 MiB +  67.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB       smartd
896.0 KiB + 550.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB       dbus
  1.3 MiB + 217.0 KiB =   1.5 MiB       ntpd
  1.0 MiB + 578.5 KiB =   1.6 MiB       at-spi-bus-launcher
  1.4 MiB + 392.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB       gvfsd
  1.7 MiB + 275.0 KiB =   1.9 MiB       obexd
332.0 KiB +   1.7 MiB =   2.1 MiB       kdeinit5
  2.1 MiB + 117.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB       rsyslogd
  1.7 MiB + 604.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB       sddm
  1.7 MiB + 714.5 KiB =   2.4 MiB       sddm-helper
  1.9 MiB + 616.5 KiB =   2.5 MiB       cupsd
  2.1 MiB + 571.0 KiB =   2.6 MiB       upowerd
  1.8 MiB + 993.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB       cups-browsed
  2.5 MiB + 452.0 KiB =   2.9 MiB       dhclient
  2.8 MiB + 248.0 KiB =   3.0 MiB       systemd-udevd
  2.1 MiB + 978.0 KiB =   3.0 MiB       xembedsniproxy
  2.1 MiB + 956.0 KiB =   3.1 MiB       kscreen_backend_launcher
  3.2 MiB +  26.0 KiB =   3.2 MiB       haveged
  2.3 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   3.3 MiB       gmenudbusmenuproxy
  3.0 MiB + 469.0 KiB =   3.5 MiB       systemd-logind
  3.0 MiB + 692.5 KiB =   3.7 MiB       dbus-daemon (4)
  3.3 MiB + 543.5 KiB =   3.8 MiB       gvfsd-fuse
  3.3 MiB + 510.0 KiB =   3.8 MiB       polkitd
736.0 KiB +   3.4 MiB =   4.1 MiB       file.so (2)
  2.9 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   4.1 MiB       bash (2)
  3.6 MiB + 749.5 KiB =   4.3 MiB       wpa_supplicant
  4.3 MiB + 599.0 KiB =   4.9 MiB       ModemManager
  4.4 MiB + 921.5 KiB =   5.3 MiB       colord
  3.8 MiB +   1.9 MiB =   5.7 MiB       kactivitymanagerd
  4.3 MiB +   2.3 MiB =   6.6 MiB       klauncher
  4.5 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   6.6 MiB       kuiserver5
  5.6 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   7.0 MiB       NetworkManager
  4.9 MiB +   2.3 MiB =   7.2 MiB       polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1
  5.3 MiB +   1.9 MiB =   7.2 MiB       conky
  5.3 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   7.3 MiB       kglobalaccel5
  6.7 MiB + 932.5 KiB =   7.6 MiB       udisksd
  6.4 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   8.4 MiB       kaccess
  5.5 MiB +   3.0 MiB =   8.5 MiB       org_kde_powerdevil
  7.0 MiB +   3.3 MiB =  10.3 MiB       kdeconnectd
  7.4 MiB +   3.0 MiB =  10.4 MiB       ksmserver
 11.2 MiB +   1.6 MiB =  12.8 MiB       python3.7
 13.0 MiB +   1.2 MiB =  14.1 MiB       pulseaudio
 14.0 MiB +   1.6 MiB =  15.6 MiB       kwalletd
 12.8 MiB +   5.4 MiB =  18.2 MiB       yakuake
 11.6 MiB +   7.2 MiB =  18.8 MiB       konsole
 15.3 MiB +   7.1 MiB =  22.3 MiB       krunner
 22.6 MiB +   3.1 MiB =  25.7 MiB       Xorg
 21.8 MiB +   4.2 MiB =  26.0 MiB       python2.7
 32.9 MiB +  11.6 MiB =  44.5 MiB       kded5
 40.7 MiB +   7.1 MiB =  47.8 MiB       kwin_x11
122.4 MiB +  13.9 MiB = 136.3 MiB       plasmashell
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                        570.8 MiB
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keremxoidrc@heap8440p:~
$ hello everyone          

.mem at start with auto wlan0

[Gerson]

The .featherpad and .geany folders still appear in the /home

[richb]

The .featherpad and .geany folders still appear in the /home

I do not see them.