jocester and eriefisher, thanks for the suggestion on tlp and tlp-rdw, longest runtime on battery is my goal and by not running the radios when not in use, I expect to be able to run longer on battery.
Both tlp and the script are effective at shutting down wireless. I currently start up without wireless and start it if that is what I want. The part I can't solve is that if I enable wireless to use email/web and then don't shut it down before suspending to RAM (as for example if I shut the lid intending to come back in a few minutes) the autorun script does shut down the radios (it also works on boot up to keep them down until needed) BUT shortly after resuming from suspend the radios restart if that was their state prior to suspend. I don't want them to start up until I tell them.
The session and startup has triggers on startup, on shutdown, on suspend, but I didn't see one for on resume. That is probably what I am thinking would be nice to have.
Normally saving state upon suspend is great. I don't know how/where all the info is stored or if it is possible to just override the radio state so the resume won't restart just the radios.
ef, it's not just paranoia

but trying to bend this machine to my will! Still, it's way better than Windows was!
By the way, the ahs version uses several watts less (about 15% less) according to a wattmeter I used on this machine. Maybe I will move to that later.