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[MAYBL8]

Andy,
I didn't have ksnip on my system.
This is what I got trying to install it:

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$ sudo apt-get install ksnip
[sudo] password for dcihon: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libkcolorpicker libkcolorpicker-dev libkcolorpicker0 libkimageannotator libkimageannotator-common libkimageannotator-dev
  libkimageannotator0
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ksnip libkcolorpicker libkcolorpicker-dev libkcolorpicker0 libkimageannotator libkimageannotator-common libkimageannotator-dev
  libkimageannotator0
0 upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 769 kB of archives.
After this operation, 3,911 kB of additional disk space will be used.
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Get:1 https://mirror.genesisadaptive.com/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 libkcolorpicker amd64 0.1.4-1mx19+1 [16.8 kB]
Get:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 libkcolorpicker0 amd64 0.1.4-1 [16.9 kB]
Get:3 https://mirror.genesisadaptive.com/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 libkcolorpicker-dev amd64 0.1.4-1mx19+1 [4,968 B]
Get:4 https://mirror.genesisadaptive.com/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 libkimageannotator amd64 0.3.1-1mx19+1 [214 kB]
Get:5 https://mirror.genesisadaptive.com/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 ksnip amd64 1.7.1-1mx19+1 [284 kB]
Get:6 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 libkimageannotator-common all 0.3.1-5 [9,940 B]
Get:7 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 libkimageannotator0 amd64 0.3.1-5 [214 kB]
Get:8 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 libkimageannotator-dev amd64 0.3.1-5 [8,648 B]
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Selecting previously unselected package libkcolorpicker.
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Unpacking libkcolorpicker (0.1.4-1mx19+1) ...
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Selecting previously unselected package libkimageannotator.
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Selecting previously unselected package libkcolorpicker0:amd64.
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Unpacking libkcolorpicker0:amd64 (0.1.4-1) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/3-libkcolorpicker0_0.1.4-1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkColorPicker.so.0.1.4', which is also in package libkcolorpicker 0.1.4-1mx19+1
Selecting previously unselected package libkimageannotator-common.
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Selecting previously unselected package libkimageannotator0:amd64.
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Unpacking libkimageannotator0:amd64 (0.3.1-5) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/5-libkimageannotator0_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkImageAnnotator.so.0.3.1', which is also in package libkimageannotator 0.3.1-1mx19+1
dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Selecting previously unselected package libkimageannotator-dev:amd64.
Preparing to unpack .../6-libkimageannotator-dev_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libkimageannotator-dev:amd64 (0.3.1-5) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/6-libkimageannotator-dev_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkImageAnnotator.so', which is also in package libkimageannotator 0.3.1-1mx19+1
Selecting previously unselected package ksnip.
Preparing to unpack .../7-ksnip_1.7.1-1mx19+1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking ksnip (1.7.1-1mx19+1) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/3-libkcolorpicker0_0.1.4-1_amd64.deb
 /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/5-libkimageannotator0_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb
 /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/6-libkimageannotator-dev_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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[andyprough]

Andy,
I didn't have ksnip on my system.
This is what I got trying to install it:

Yup, same errors as me, I would assume it's a problem on the Sid side of things unless Norbert pops in and determines otherwise. It's Sid's libkimageannotator0 that is causing dpkg to throw up the "overwrite" error.

[norbert]

Hi

Don't hesitate to stick around, we really do have a great community here on both sides of the fence.

Please check out MX in a VM or two, especially our KDE beta in the works, don't let that its an older KDE scare you off.

Will do for sure, both! KDE beta in the works - how can I test this?

That right there is the issue, there have been a few stabs at doing it. The last time I even looked at it I hit what seemed like a circular dependency issue... so I moved on to more important things. Compile time for all of it doesn't bother me, but I'm not fooling around with the other things especially when I'm not a Qt or KDE expert or even close.

A quick look at the rdepends of libqtcore5a in sid gives 2354 packages ... of course, many are in the KDE family, but there are still loads and loads that need to be recompiled and possibly fixed. I don't think this is a good idea to do for a stable release.

[norbert]

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$ sudo apt-get install ksnip
dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/5-libkimageannotator0_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkImageAnnotator.so.0.3.1', which is also in package libkimageannotator 0.3.1-1mx19+1

Well, that seems to be messed up in various reasons: first, there seems to be a package libkimageannotator in mxlinux while Debian has libkimageannotator0 (which btw is generally the better idea when dealing with ABI changes). I am not sure whether the former (without the 0) ever was in Debian.

Now how to solve this - it is not trivial: If there are packages in mxlinux that depend on libkimageannotator (without the 0), then there are troubles ahead. One would need to build a new package libkimageannotator0 that replaces/breaks with the non-0 version, as well as provides the non-0 version to satisfy the dependencies. Not sure this is a good idea either.

[SwampRabbit]

Will do for sure, both! KDE beta in the works - how can I test this?

viewtopic.php?f=94&t=59297

[andyprough]

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$ sudo apt-get install ksnip
dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/5-libkimageannotator0_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkImageAnnotator.so.0.3.1', which is also in package libkimageannotator 0.3.1-1mx19+1

Well, that seems to be messed up in various reasons: first, there seems to be a package libkimageannotator in mxlinux while Debian has libkimageannotator0 (which btw is generally the better idea when dealing with ABI changes). I am not sure whether the former (without the 0) ever was in Debian.

Now how to solve this - it is not trivial: If there are packages in mxlinux that depend on libkimageannotator (without the 0), then there are troubles ahead. One would need to build a new package libkimageannotator0 that replaces/breaks with the non-0 version, as well as provides the non-0 version to satisfy the dependencies. Not sure this is a good idea either.

On my MX19.2 install, I disabled the Sid and the KDE OBS repos and told Synaptic to 'fix broken packages', and it fixed ksnip by upgrading libkimageannotator and libkimageannotator-dev (MX versions) and by removing libkimageannotator0 (Debian version):

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Start-Date: 2020-07-30  23:36:50
Commandline: /usr/sbin/synaptic
Requested-By: andy (1000)
Upgrade: libkimageannotator-dev:amd64 (0.2.1-1mx19+1, 0.3.1-1mx19+1), libkimageannotator:amd64 (0.2.1-1mx19+1, 0.3.1-1mx19+1)
Remove: libkimageannotator0:amd64 (0.3.1-5)
End-Date: 2020-07-30  23:36:52

Now apt is advising to autoremove libkimageannotator-common (Debian version):

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$ sudo apt autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libcrypt-dev libebml4v5 libenchant-2-2 libgsoap-2.8.91
  libkimageannotator-common libmatroska6v5 libprotobuf-lite22 libre2-7
  libvncserver1 libwpe-1.0-1 libwpebackend-fdo-1.0-1 xsel
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 12 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

[SwampRabbit]

Now apt is advising to autoremove libkimageannotator-common

That’s because the system doesn’t know there is something that depends on it probably.

You can take a look and see if if it’s depends or just a recommends for ksnip.

I’d just ignore any auto remove items for the time being unless they get out of hand, in that case you should manually remove some instead.

Random question. You haven’t had issues booting or issues with GRUB have you? What version are you on?

Edit: you might want to consider pinning some items you run across like knsip

[Stevo]

We need to modify our kimageannotator build to be the same as Debian's, and have it conflict with the packages we did before Debian. That's why we don't have the "0" at the end or the -common package.

[andyprough]

Now apt is advising to autoremove libkimageannotator-common

That’s because the system doesn’t know there is something that depends on it probably.

You can take a look and see if if it’s depends or just a recommends for ksnip.

libkimageannotator-common doesn't come up as either a dependency or a recommended package for ksnip.

Random question. You haven’t had issues booting or issues with GRUB have you? What version are you on?

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grub-efi-amd64-bin/mx,now 2.04-3mx19+3 amd64 [installed,automatic]

No issues booting. This system is MX19.2 with everything kept on the Debian Buster and MX repos, except Norbert's KDE packages are pulling their dependencies from Debian Sid. I have to manually update the KDE packages and then disable Sid in order to keep the rest of the system running on packages from Buster and MX. Neither this system nor the antiX Sid system with Norbert's KDE packages has had any trouble booting for me. This MX19.2 system has run remarkably well for about 3 months now, despite mixing it with the KDE+Sid packages.

Edit: you might want to consider pinning some items you run across like knsip

Yes, but I've been actually trying to let things break to give feedback to you and some of the other devs. So far all I've found on MX is this little ksnip thing and that virtualbox will only install from the Sid repo.

[norbert]

We need to modify our kimageannotator build to be the same as Debian's, and have it conflict with the packages we did before Debian. That's why we don't have the "0" at the end or the -common package.

Yes yes yes!!! Please, for the sake of compatibility and consistency!