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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#71 Post by andyprough »

Here is my list of 90 updates and 1 new package for the move from KDE 5.19.3 to KDE 5.19.4 on my antiX Sid install. Getting a bunch of new grub and mesa packages from Sid, which could make things interesting.

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The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libelf-dev libicu63 libx264-159 libx86emu2
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  qml-module-org-kde-ksysguard
The following packages will be upgraded:
  ark breeze breeze-cursor-theme drkonqi firefox-esr fonts-dustin git
  git-man grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common kactivitymanagerd
  kde-cli-tools kde-cli-tools-data kde-config-screenlocker kde-config-sddm
  kde-style-breeze kdeplasma-addons-data kgamma5 kwin-common kwin-data
  kwin-style-breeze kwin-x11 libcolorcorrect5 libcups2 libegl-mesa0 libegl1
  libelf-dev libelf1 libgbm1 libgl-dev libgl1 libgl1-mesa-dri libglapi-mesa
  libgles2 libglvnd0 libglx-dev libglx-mesa0 libglx0 libkdecorations2-5v5
  libkdecorations2private7 libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen7
  libkf5sysguard-data libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libkscreenlocker5
  libksgrd9 libksysguardformatter1 libksysguardsensorfaces1
  libksysguardsensors1 libkwaylandserver5 libkwin4-effect-builtins1
  libkwineffects12 libkwinglutils12 libkwinxrenderutils12 libkworkspace5-5
  libnotificationmanager1 libnspr4 libnss-myhostname libnss3
  libplasma-geolocation-interface5 libprocesscore9 libprocessui9
  libqt5webengine-data libqt5webengine5 libqt5webenginecore5
  libqt5webenginewidgets5 libtaskmanager6abi1 libweather-ion7 libxatracker2
  mesa-common-dev milou oxygen-sounds plasma-dataengines-addons
  plasma-desktop plasma-desktop-data plasma-integration plasma-nm plasma-pa
  plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widgets-addons
  plasma-workspace plasma-workspace-data plasma-workspace-wallpapers
  polkit-kde-agent-1 qml-module-qtwebengine systemsettings
90 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 214 MB of archives.
After this operation, 260 MB disk space will be freed.
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#72 Post by andyprough »

and now I've lost all icons and a bunch of other visual stuff, and am having to start kwin manually. Not fun.
:hitmyhead:
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#73 Post by sunrat »

andyprough wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:20 pm and now I've lost all icons and a bunch of other visual stuff, and am having to start kwin manually. Not fun.
:hitmyhead:
I almost posted predicting that after post #1. It was a matter of "when" rather than "if". You did well to have it last this long.
Interesting pastime though. :p ;)
Some people at siduction have added the Norbert repos to do the same thing. They had a few problems including needing to pull several packages from experimental.

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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#74 Post by andyprough »

sunrat wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:29 pm
andyprough wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:20 pm and now I've lost all icons and a bunch of other visual stuff, and am having to start kwin manually. Not fun.
:hitmyhead:
I almost posted predicting that after post #1. It was a matter of "when" rather than "if". You did well to have it last this long.
Interesting pastime though. :p ;)
Some people at siduction have added the Norbert repos to do the same thing. They had a few problems including needing to pull several packages from experimental.
I wonder what they needed from experimental? I haven't seen that. Could be that they were wanting to jump forward to KDE 5.19 from KDE 5.18.5 before Norbert had access to the correct version of the Qt libs in testing and unstable. He did warn at one point that he was having to wait a couple weeks to make those upgrades generally available because the Qt versions he needed were only in experimental.

So, I'm done for the night. kwin is starting normally now, but all icons and icon-type thingies are a disaster. Could be KDE packages, could be the new mesa packages - hard to say. It will be a good mystery to work on tomorrow.
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#75 Post by SwampRabbit »

andyprough wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:29 am So, I'm done for the night. kwin is starting normally now, but all icons and icon-type thingies are a disaster. Could be KDE packages, could be the new mesa packages - hard to say. It will be a good mystery to work on tomorrow.
FWIW, I am using the latest Mesa from Sid without issues at least on MX-19 AHS as I test the backport.
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#76 Post by norbert »

Hi everyone,

Norbert, the one that does the KDE/Plasma packaging, here ;-)

Please let me know if some things don't work, they should! If icons or whatever are missing, then probably some packages are not included and I need to add a Recommends/Depends.

Thanks

Norbert

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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#77 Post by andyprough »

norbert wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:50 am Hi everyone,

Norbert, the one that does the KDE/Plasma packaging, here ;-)

Please let me know if some things don't work, they should! If icons or whatever are missing, then probably some packages are not included and I need to add a Recommends/Depends.

Thanks

Norbert
Hi Norbert, I'll let you know one way or another, My thought right now is my machine may be having trouble with the mesa package updates that arrived at the same time. I tried adding and trying different themes and icon packs last evening and tried temporarily switching to openbox instead of kwin, but the strange graphics blacking out of these objects was consistent. I also tried deleting my ~/.kde config directory and completely removing and reinstalling KDE, but saw no change. If I have time today I'll dig further, I haven't done much searching yet on this type of bug report, probably there are some workarounds available if I start searching the broader web.
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#78 Post by norbert »

Uhh ohh, that sounds rather strange. Which GPU are you using? I don't now much about this, my computers use either Intel (laptop) or AMDGPU (desktop).

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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#79 Post by sunrat »

Hi Norbert and welcome. Not sure if you read the rest of this thread but it's about installing on MX which is based on Debian Buster. Sounds crazy to me but why not be adventurous if it rings your bell. :)
I know some people on siduction (sid based) are running from your repo successfully.

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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#80 Post by andyprough »

norbert wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:25 am Uhh ohh, that sounds rather strange. Which GPU are you using? I don't now much about this, my computers use either Intel (laptop) or AMDGPU (desktop).
Yes, I'm also using an old reliable Intel i3 for cpu and graphics. It's not a problem, it's not my main work machine. I'll have time to experiment with it and see if I can trace down the problem and find a fix. Thanks for checking in, hope we can convince you to try our beautiful MX distro while you are here.
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