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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#61 Post by andyprough »

SwampRabbit wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:13 pm One thing at a time, let me talk to Stevo again... he’s the boss. ;)
I'm in also - let us know. Do we get to break stuff? :attention: :killcomputer:
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#62 Post by SwampRabbit »

andyprough wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:35 pm I'm in also - let us know. Do we get to break stuff? :attention: :killcomputer:
I sent Stevo a PM, so unless he gets in contact with you or tells me to, please just hold tight. ;)

I've fudge a thing here and there, luckily nothing that really affected users lol. :p

Don't stop your KDE adventure in the mean time. :cool:
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#63 Post by Stevo »

Our Chromium is the same as Bullseye's, so don't install our test repo version. Debian removes the va-api feature for Buster, for unknown reasons. Our MystiQ just has a couple extra mkv presets that I found most useful, but you can get upstream Debian versions with my patch here: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show ... ert/mystiq

We greatly prefer that MX packages be built in "clean rooms" using pbuilder or sbuild. This lets you build for any architecture that Debian supports on your machine, though in practice MX only needs Intel-type 32 and 64-bit builds. Plus your daily driver install can be as insane as can be--the packaging environments are in virtual boring vanilla Debian or MX setups (you can switch back and forth easily from Debian and MX by adding or removing the various MX repos to the build chroots)

Forget all you have ever been told about the "configure, make, sudo make install" way of building programs, which is way too much of a simplification. Backporting can make even complex packaging a breeze, though some can need a lot of tweaking.

There is a Deepin DE PPA that seems to have a manageable number of packages that may be good practice for the much larger chore of doing a newer KDE, and some users have asked for Deepin in our repos. I saw it at the Ubuntu Handbook blog.

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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#64 Post by sunrat »

andyprough wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:47 pmAlso, I meant to tell you, I found that Debian has a 'kde-full' package that seems to install quite a few useful things after you've first installed task-kde-desktop. Unfortunately, task-kde-desktop just isn't a great all-encompassing meta-package.
The package kde-plasma-desktop would install most (or all) of those useful things without flooding the system with lots of extra applications you probably don't want. kde-full gives you everything possibly even including the kitchen sink. ;)

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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#65 Post by asqwerth »

I find even KDE-Standard too chock full of programs I don't need, but it was a useful exercise for me to install the same on my standard MX19 XFCE install prior to work starting on MX-KDE.

I learnt a lot about what was available in KDE and deemed "standard" in Debian's eyes, LOL. Even Neon Developer's Edition didn't have so much stuff, and that comes direct from KDE!
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#66 Post by MAYBL8 »

Andy,
I am having a issue restarting my system. It just hang with the text on the screen saying restarting system.
I was wondering if you were having any restarting issues.
Thanks
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#67 Post by andyprough »

MAYBL8 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:05 am Andy,
I am having a issue restarting my system. It just hang with the text on the screen saying restarting system.
I was wondering if you were having any restarting issues.
Thanks
Dan
I'm not having restart trouble right now but I have had with these systems in the past. Might need to try restarting or shutting down by logging out of KDE first and then using the power button on the login screen.

It's unfortunate that Sid is truly unstable. You might benefit from reinstalling AHS, switching to Debian Testing repo instead of Sid, upgrading the base, and installing from Norbert's Debian Testing KDE repos. I believe you would point your Debian repos to Bullseye instead of Sid. In my experience, Testing gives fewer of these types of problems than Sid.

The good thing about Sid is it's always accessible. With testing, I believe you have to stop updating the system prior to the next Debian release, and then wait until a couple months after that next release when the next Testing repo is open for business. At which point you may have to reinstall.
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#68 Post by MAYBL8 »

I've had issues come and go. Could be a package issue buried deep in there somewhere.
I will take a look at the logs and see if I can what is hanging the restarting process.
Sometimes it's hard to find the exact bug if it is one.
I think my system is pretty stable at the moment. No outstanding items being held back or causing any running issues.
I have doing snapshots. Do you have a backup regimen that you use.
Debian recommends Daily weekly monthly. I don't think all that is necessary when I can just reinstall.

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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#69 Post by andyprough »

MAYBL8 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:58 am I've had issues come and go. Could be a package issue buried deep in there somewhere.
I will take a look at the logs and see if I can what is hanging the restarting process.
Sometimes it's hard to find the exact bug if it is one.
I think my system is pretty stable at the moment. No outstanding items being held back or causing any running issues.
I have doing snapshots. Do you have a backup regimen that you use.
Debian recommends Daily weekly monthly. I don't think all that is necessary when I can just reinstall.
I back up my data to the cloud and external drives. System I don't worry about as I can reinstall quickly like you.
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

#70 Post by andyprough »

Norbert just updated the KDE repos to 5.19.4. Time to see if this breaks anything. :popcorn:
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