MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

[SwampRabbit]

Hmmm I thought there was a sources list under /etc/apt that still has it. If you look in MX Repo Manager is it there? I could be mis-thinking on all that too.

The problem with Sid is that you can’t test every application and function. You won’t know if it breaks, how long it will be broken, or how bad it’s broken, and the impact on other things to break.

Things in Debian Sid and Testing are tested to a degree though, but not everything is seen. Recently for pdfarranger, Debian was missing a depends, it was like that a long time. I had to reach out to the pdfarranger dev and then a bug got reported to Debian. That was about a week into it being broken after I identified it.

Look at how many issues and of potential issues get brought up about considered stable packages here... compound that by a million... that’s Debian Sid.

[MAYBL8]

You are right about testing.
I need now that I am using sid how to report bugs. I know there are instructions on the debian web site.

As far as the the test repo goes.
I see it in the repo manager but it is unchecked. Maybe because it it there and when you activate the tab it uses it?
I don't know.
I will add the repo to my list and see what happens.

[andyprough]

This is the repo list from my MX stable system:
I don't see the test repo here but it works.

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Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/balena-etcher.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb https://mirrors.evowise.com/mxlinux-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teams.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable main
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 

On my system, MX Testing repo is commented out in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list:

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# MX Community Main and Test Repos
deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
#deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ buster test

#ahs hardware stack repo
#deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster ahs

I assume it gets uncommented by MX Package Installer, and then re-commented when MXPI is done using it.

[MAYBL8]

So here is what I am seeing.
Whether it is checked or unchecked the MX test tab does not show any packages.
I think we will have to or have someone look at the source code to see what it is doing.
That is if we even want to mess with it that much.
I don't really need it as I said I was just going to use it or test it to see if it worked.
using apt-get update and apt upgrade or apt-dist upgrade from the cli is the preferred way.
If the test repo is there it should look there for packages.
If it there I wonder what takes precedent , it or sid?
That might be an apt pinning setup .

[andyprough]

So here is what I am seeing.
Whether it is checked or unchecked the MX test tab does not show any packages.
I think we will have to or have someone look at the source code to see what it is doing.
That is if we even want to mess with it that much.
I don't really need it as I said I was just going to use it or test it to see if it worked.
using apt-get update and apt upgrade or apt-dist upgrade from the cli is the preferred way.
If the test repo is there it should look there for packages.
If it there I wonder what takes precedent , it or sid?
That might be an apt pinning setup .

You may be missing the gpg key for the MX Test repo. I'll try adding it to my antiX Sid setup in a little while and see if I need to add the gpg key to get the MX Test repo populated in MXPI.

[SwampRabbit]

The MX “Test Repo”, I empathize it because it is not “testing” really.

Much of what is in there may be in Debian Testing and Unstable.

The only things really lost are packages never packaged for Debian at all, packages that we have never versions of that aren’t in Debian at all, and packages that we have fixed bugs in or modified to provide something Debian doesn’t.

As far as someone looking at why it’s not working for Dan with MXPI... not sure if anyone is inclined to right now and we honestly don’t have to if other things take precedence right now like the maintenance of MX, KDE beta, planning for MX-20, etc, etc.

[MAYBL8]

Swamprabbit,
I understand completely . I know we are out on an island by ourselves.
I appreciate the help you do give us. Thanks for taking the time.

[andyprough]

So here is what I am seeing.
Whether it is checked or unchecked the MX test tab does not show any packages.
I think we will have to or have someone look at the source code to see what it is doing.
That is if we even want to mess with it that much.
I don't really need it as I said I was just going to use it or test it to see if it worked.
using apt-get update and apt upgrade or apt-dist upgrade from the cli is the preferred way.
If the test repo is there it should look there for packages.
If it there I wonder what takes precedent , it or sid?
That might be an apt pinning setup .

I just tried it, could not get MX Testing repo to show up in the MXPI. I think we could enable the repo and access it from synaptic though. I'll have to try that.

[andyprough]

I can verify that MX testing works from within synaptic if I add it to antiX Sid. For example, the attached screenshot is of Synaptic's versions for the blender package, with version 2.80 from the MX stable repo, and version 2.83.2 from both Sid and from the MX testing repo.

However, when I try to install that specific blender package from MX test repo, Synaptic throws up an error message regarding broken packages. So, at least for blender, the Sid libraries are incompatible with the dependencies required by the MX testing version of blender. (see first screenshot)

When I try a simpler package like deadbeef, Synaptic installs the MX test version without a problem. (see second screenshot)

[anticapitalista]

Just to point out that MX Test repo (it is not called MX testing) is buster based.
If you are using sid repos, you should probably not use MX test repo.