MX-19.2 KDE Beta 2 Feedback Thread

[i_ri]

Hello dolphin_oracle and everyone
keybord indicator found useful. beta2 two-finger touch scroll replace beta1 edge scroll. good size window grip.
hi asqwerth, yes, chuckle when faced with creating beta2 usb with beta1 system it semi feels like a sort of cannibalism.
from MX-19.2ahs_KDE-beta2 live on

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ystem:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 5.6.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 
           wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-19.2_KDE-beta2_x64 patito feo July 5  2020 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: HP-Pavilion product: AY022AA-ABA p6330f v: N/A serial: <root required> 
           Chassis: Hewlett-Packard type: 3 serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: MSI model: IONA v: 1.0 serial: <root required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 5.15 
           date: 06/25/2010 
CPU:       Dual Core: Intel Core i3 530 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem speed: 2041 MHz min/max: 1200/2933 MHz 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0042 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel compositor: kwin_x11 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.0.7 direct render: Yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d800 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter type: USB driver: r8188eu 
           bus ID: 1-1.3:3 chip ID: 0bda:8179 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.83 TiB used: 2.10 GiB (0.1%) 
Info:      Processes: 195 Uptime: 16m Memory: 7.64 GiB used: 769.6 MiB (9.8%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 
           runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 running in: konsole 
           inxi: 3.0.36 

DE: Plasma 
WM: KWin 
Theme: Breeze [GTK2/3] 
Icons: breeze [GTK2/3] 
Packages: 2326 (dpkg)

edit add: the shutdown of this live instance is quite smooth. seemed fewer screens rolled.

[Gerson]

I just installed beta 2 and I get an update but the green box does not appear but only a notification, I looked for the green box in the menu and clicked to activate it but it does not appear in the taskbar.
I updated by Konsole

[asqwerth]

Is this a fresh install? Did you preserve home from beta 1?

[Gerson]

Is this a fresh install? Did you preserve home from beta 1?

It's a clean installation, zeros including the /home.
I already solved the problem, I had distilded an option in the section Startup and Shutdown > Background Services.
Not a beta 2 problem.

[i_ri]

Hello dolphin_oracle and everyone
gazelle-installer
MX has the best installer in the business.
from MX-19.2ahs_KDE-beta2 installed on

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System:    Host: 8440p Kernel: 5.6.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 wm: kwin_x11 
           dm: SDDM Distro: MX-19.2_KDE-beta2_x64 patito feo July 5  2020 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP EliteBook 8440p v: N/A serial: <root required> Chassis: type: 10 
           serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 172A v: KBC Version 30.35 serial: <root required> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard 
           v: 68CCU Ver. F.60 date: 11/11/2015 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 46.8 Wh condition: 46.8/46.8 Wh (100%) volts: 12.5/11.1 model: Hewlett-Packard Primary 
           type: Li-ion serial: 01595 2011/08/15 status: Full 
           Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard K360 serial: 4004-13-87-a8-bd 
           charge: 100% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5 M 560 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem rev: 5 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           bogomips: 21284 
           Speed: 1912 MHz min/max: 1199/2667 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1912 2: 1958 3: 1909 4: 1870 
           Flags: acpi aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov constant_tsc cpuid cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 
           dtherm dts est flush_l1d fpu fxsr ht ibpb ibrs ida lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae 
           pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pebs pge pni popcnt pse pse36 pti rdtscp rep_good sep smx ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 
           ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tsc vme xtopology xtpr 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           chip ID: 8086:0046 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel compositor: kwin_x11 resolution: 1600x900~60Hz, 1280x1024~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.0.7 direct render: Yes 
Network:   Device-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 5020 
           bus ID: 00:19.0 chip ID: 8086:10ea 
           Device-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 5000 bus ID: 43:00.0 chip ID: 8086:4239 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 14.91 GiB used: 6.32 GiB (42.4%) 
Weather:   Temperature: 36.3 C (97 F) Conditions: Clear sky Wind: from WNW at 2.3 m/s (8 km/h, 5 mph) Cloud Cover: 0% 
           Humidity: 48% Dew Point: 23.5 C (74 F) Pressure: 1011.3 mb (34 in) Location: Washington, D.C., DC, US, 20500 
           Current Time: Sat 18 Jul 2020 05:52:27 PM EDT Observation Time: 2020-07-18 17:30:00 (America/New_York -0400) 
           Source: WeatherBit.io 
Info:      Processes: 216 Uptime: 5m Memory: 3.65 GiB used: 550.0 MiB (14.7%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 
           Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 running in: konsole inxi: 3.0.36 

Theme: Breeze [GTK2/3] 
Icons: breeze [GTK2/3]
Packages: 2326 (dpkg) 

upon startup with wireless network automatic

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 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program

 92.0 KiB +  21.5 KiB = 113.5 KiB       start_kdeinit
180.0 KiB +  33.0 KiB = 213.0 KiB       acpid
188.0 KiB +  36.0 KiB = 224.0 KiB       acpi_fakekeyd
220.0 KiB +  28.5 KiB = 248.5 KiB       startkde
300.0 KiB +  49.5 KiB = 349.5 KiB       init
312.0 KiB +  73.0 KiB = 385.0 KiB       cron
440.0 KiB +  26.0 KiB = 466.0 KiB       mdadm
476.0 KiB +  41.0 KiB = 517.0 KiB       rpc.idmapd
580.0 KiB +  40.5 KiB = 620.5 KiB       ksysguardd
640.0 KiB +  67.0 KiB = 707.0 KiB       cgmanager
692.0 KiB +  37.0 KiB = 729.0 KiB       ssh-agent
544.0 KiB + 189.5 KiB = 733.5 KiB       rpcbind
516.0 KiB + 281.0 KiB = 797.0 KiB       kwrapper5
660.0 KiB + 243.5 KiB = 903.5 KiB       dconf-service
760.0 KiB + 214.0 KiB = 974.0 KiB       dbus-launch (2)
284.0 KiB + 743.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB       saned (2)
876.0 KiB + 179.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB       rpc.statd
460.0 KiB + 614.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB       avahi-daemon (2)
804.0 KiB + 368.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB       getty (6)
840.0 KiB + 551.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB       dbus
  1.1 MiB + 250.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB       sudo
  1.3 MiB +  65.5 KiB =   1.4 MiB       smartd
  1.2 MiB + 229.0 KiB =   1.5 MiB       ntpd
332.0 KiB +   1.3 MiB =   1.7 MiB       kdeinit5
  1.1 MiB + 628.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB       at-spi-bus-launcher
  1.3 MiB + 576.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB       gvfsd-fuse
  1.5 MiB + 382.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB       gvfsd
  1.7 MiB + 265.0 KiB =   1.9 MiB       obexd
  2.0 MiB + 104.5 KiB =   2.1 MiB       rsyslogd
  1.6 MiB + 609.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB       cupsd
  1.7 MiB + 584.5 KiB =   2.3 MiB       sddm
  1.7 MiB + 702.5 KiB =   2.4 MiB       sddm-helper
932.0 KiB +   1.5 MiB =   2.4 MiB       desktop.so
  2.1 MiB + 629.0 KiB =   2.7 MiB       upowerd
  2.5 MiB + 465.0 KiB =   2.9 MiB       dhclient
  2.8 MiB + 249.0 KiB =   3.0 MiB       systemd-udevd
  2.2 MiB + 943.0 KiB =   3.1 MiB       kscreen_backend_launcher
  2.1 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   3.1 MiB       cups-browsed
  3.2 MiB +  28.0 KiB =   3.2 MiB       haveged
  2.3 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   3.3 MiB       gmenudbusmenuproxy
  3.1 MiB + 468.5 KiB =   3.5 MiB       systemd-logind
  3.0 MiB + 682.5 KiB =   3.7 MiB       dbus-daemon (4)
  3.3 MiB + 551.0 KiB =   3.8 MiB       polkitd
  2.9 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   4.1 MiB       bash (2)
  3.7 MiB + 748.5 KiB =   4.4 MiB       wpa_supplicant
  1.0 MiB +   3.7 MiB =   4.8 MiB       file.so (3)
  4.3 MiB + 644.0 KiB =   4.9 MiB       ModemManager
  4.1 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   5.1 MiB       xembedsniproxy
  3.9 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   5.9 MiB       kactivitymanagerd
  4.3 MiB +   2.0 MiB =   6.2 MiB       kaccess
  4.4 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   6.5 MiB       kuiserver5
  5.5 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   7.0 MiB       NetworkManager
  5.1 MiB +   2.0 MiB =   7.1 MiB       kglobalaccel5
  5.3 MiB +   1.9 MiB =   7.2 MiB       conky
  6.6 MiB + 997.0 KiB =   7.6 MiB       udisksd
  6.2 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   8.3 MiB       klauncher
  5.4 MiB +   3.0 MiB =   8.4 MiB       org_kde_powerdevil
  6.7 MiB +   2.2 MiB =   9.0 MiB       polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1
  6.8 MiB +   3.1 MiB =   9.9 MiB       kdeconnectd
  7.2 MiB +   3.0 MiB =  10.2 MiB       ksmserver
 11.4 MiB +   1.6 MiB =  13.1 MiB       python3.7
 12.9 MiB +   1.3 MiB =  14.2 MiB       pulseaudio
 10.6 MiB +   5.4 MiB =  16.0 MiB       yakuake
 14.3 MiB +   1.7 MiB =  16.0 MiB       kwalletd
 15.4 MiB +   6.6 MiB =  22.0 MiB       konsole
 16.9 MiB +   6.6 MiB =  23.6 MiB       krunner
 23.7 MiB +   2.8 MiB =  26.5 MiB       Xorg
 23.1 MiB +   4.1 MiB =  27.3 MiB       python2.7
 35.9 MiB +  10.8 MiB =  46.7 MiB       kded5
 42.4 MiB +   7.1 MiB =  49.5 MiB       kwin_x11
113.4 MiB +  13.8 MiB = 127.2 MiB       plasmashell
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                        568.7 MiB
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keremxoid@8440p:~

[dolphin_oracle]

Running live on my Lenovo, clicking"Brightness tray" in MX Tools does nothing that I can see. Running mx-tweak-systray in the terminal: "command not found." Tried to install it--not available.

Sorry if this has already been reported earlier...

it tends to slide into the hidden part of the systray. click that littel triangle.

it shows up without an icon though...

Sorry, but I'd like to dredge it up one more time: why would we want it included if it's hidden and has no icon, whereas KDE's power manager (name?) is readily available and covers this function just fine? What does it add? Wouldn't it be better if we just tag it with something like DontShowIn=KDE?

no problem.

it serves exactly the same function it serves on Xfce and fluxbox. controling software brightness rather than the hardware backlight. the kde and xfce power managers control the hardware backlight on laptops. the software control was in response to users with desktops wanting to turn down the brightness (although I still don't know why those uses don't just use the display controls for that, but not my call). folks asked for the feature and we made it. you'll note the display tab in Tweak is not present on plasma or flux though. that tab has a lot of Xfce only features.

the icon thing will be fixed in an upcoming update.

[dolphin_oracle]

Was busy and have only just tested beta2 live and then installed it.

Live-USB: testing of the new KDE additions to MX-Tweak:
The panel orientation worked to move the bottom panel to the left side. However, if I made the bottom panel fatter (increased height) and then moved it, the left panel still remained at its original default skinny thickness. On the other hand, moving it back to the bottom restored it to the increased height that I had set.

There was no option to save the current panel config before moving the panels around. I assume that the settings for panel configs are not so easy to get to/more complex unlike in XFCE.

Tested the option to disable the KDE single-click default mode. Works.

During installation, I chose to save desktop changes.

After installation, I rebooted and found:
1. bottom panel had the increased panel height I had set, yay!
2. the single click remained disabled so I was straight away in double click mode.

That's where I am so far.

there is not option to save the panel because unlike with Xfce, we don't actually do anything to the panel except relocate it.

also irritatingly, KDE saves a lot of panel settings based on size. including height. KaOS has a panel config for about 20 different screen resolutions built in to get around that problem, although the height still remains whatever the current config is.

[i_ri]

Hello dolphin_oracle and everyone
mouse click on Desktop

-middle-click paste
the settings of: prevent empty clipboard, and save clipboard contents on exit
on install the middle-click always paste a notes on desktop.
On live session instance the clipboard is empty to begin and no notes is opened when the clipboard is empty./ no action. On live session once the clipboard has content the middle-click on Desktop opens notes.
This clipboard save on exit overrides the Desktop Session "Start with an empty session" (?)

-left-click-hold plus right-click
opens a context menu sub menu condensed

"clipboard" does not appear in menu

[i_ri]

hello everyone
automount

plugging data usb mounts automatically. The setting Removable Storage > Removable Devices , the topmost line "Enable" automatic mounting of removable media has no checkmark. the checkbox is empty.

[paul1149]

Just want to say I'm glad MX has decided to go with a KDE edition. To my mind this will open up a large new segment of users who want a highly sophisticated and beautiful DE to the excellence of MX. It should be a big win for everyone.