MX-19.2 KDE Beta 2 Feedback Thread

[danielson]

Things are on a roll here!

Silly question, but suppose with KDEb1 updated, there's no need to try b2?
Unless maybe, to check installation process?

[WinExodus]

This is pretty amazing so far!!!

Couple of issues I noticed:

- The screen to decrypt the drive on boot is at a low resolution on a 1440p monitor after the NVidia drivers update
- Display settings don't show the right refresh rates on the 1440p (limited up to 60hz), but NVidia Settings does (165hz).
- The subtext for the menu is garbled after I installed the NVidia drivers (not sure if this happens before that) https://imgur.com/mEYhNjp

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System:    Host: MX-KDE-Beta2 Kernel: 5.6.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.6.0-2-amd64 root=UUID=35552f90-5d50-43b1-a762-c5606aeb5f5e ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-19.2_KDE-beta2_x64 patito feo July 5  2020 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) v: Rev X.0x serial: <filter> 
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1407 date: 04/01/2020 
CPU:       Topology: 12-Core model: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen family: 17 (23) 
           model-id: 71 (113) stepping: N/A microcode: 8701013 L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 182058 
           Speed: 2195 MHz min/max: 2200/3800 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2194 2: 2194 3: 2196 4: 2196 
           5: 2190 6: 2187 7: 2191 8: 2192 9: 2195 10: 2188 11: 2195 12: 2196 13: 2193 14: 2196 15: 2184 16: 2193 
           17: 2196 18: 2195 19: 2195 20: 2195 21: 2195 22: 2196 23: 2195 24: 2196 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA TU102 [GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Rev. A] driver: nvidia v: 440.100 bus ID: 08:00.0 
           chip ID: 10de:1e07 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: nvidia unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv 
           compositor: kwin_x11 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 440.100 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: NVIDIA TU102 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 08:00.1 
           chip ID: 10de:10f7 
           Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus ID: 0a:00.4 chip ID: 1022:1487 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.0-2-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 v: kernel 
           port: f000 bus ID: 04:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
           IF-ID-1: proton0 state: unknown speed: 10 Mbps duplex: full mac: N/A 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 14.35 TiB used: 313.13 GiB (2.1%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 model: Sabrent size: 953.87 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
           speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> rev: ECFM22.4 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST5000DM000-1FK178 size: 4.55 TiB block size: physical: 4096 B 
           logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 5980 rpm serial: <filter> rev: CC47 temp: 37 C scheme: GPT 
           ID-3: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G2B0B-00YS70 size: 465.76 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 90WD temp: 42 C scheme: GPT 
           ID-4: /dev/sdc vendor: Western Digital model: WD20EADS-11R6B1 size: 1.82 TiB block size: physical: 4096 B 
           logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 0A80 temp: 43 C scheme: GPT 
           ID-5: /dev/sdd vendor: Western Digital model: WD10EZEX-08WN4A0 size: 931.51 GiB block size: physical: 4096 B 
           logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> rev: 1A02 temp: 41 C scheme: MBR 
           ID-6: /dev/sde vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB block size: physical: 512 B 
           logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q scheme: MBR 
           ID-7: /dev/sdf type: USB vendor: Seagate model: Backup+ Desk size: 3.64 TiB block size: physical: 4096 B 
           logical: 4096 B serial: <filter> rev: 050B scheme: MBR 
           ID-8: /dev/sdg type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD10EZEX-08WN4A0 size: 931.51 GiB block size: 
           physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> scheme: MBR 
           ID-9: /dev/sdh type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD My Passport 259F size: 931.48 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1004 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 462.96 GiB size: 454.70 GiB (98.21%) used: 7.31 GiB (1.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0 
           ID-2: /boot raw size: 512.0 MiB size: 487.9 MiB (95.30%) used: 100.4 MiB (20.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb2 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 1.98 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/dm-1 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 61.8 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 50 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 41% 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 431 Uptime: 20m Memory: 29.95 GiB used: 3.12 GiB (10.4%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 
           default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

[WinExodus]

I also can't install Steam from The MX Package Installer

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Hit:1 http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo buster InRelease
Hit:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease
Hit:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
Hit:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease
Reading package lists...
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Recommended packages:
  steam-devices:i386 libxss1:i386 xterm:i386 | x-terminal-emulator:i386
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  steam:i386
Preconfiguring packages ...
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/1,447 kB of archives.
After this operation, 4,472 kB of additional disk space will be used.
(Reading database ... 211166 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../steam_1.0.0.59-4_i386.deb ...
dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/steam_1.0.0.59-4_i386.deb (--unpack):
 new steam:i386 package pre-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
Installation terminated: Steam License Agreement was DECLINED.
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/steam_1.0.0.59-4_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgpg-error0:i386 libudev1:i386 libxinerama1:i386
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

I did not receive a message for the License Agreement.

[kc1di]

If I have beta 1 installed is it update to beta2 if I've keep it upgraded?

[Adrian]

If I have beta 1 installed is it update to beta2 if I've keep it upgraded?

In the announcement.

The beta will receive updates over time through the repositories, but certain items, such as the live system and some user settings defaults, will not be obvious without some user intervention.

I see this question coming up again and again. Betas are meant for testing and reporting problems, not for installing a upgradable stable system so the best way to provide feedback is to download the latest Beta and test that, if you want to install and use it in "production" and not have to reinstall wait at least till a Release Candidate. That's unfortunate because it can potentially reduce the number of testers but that's how it works...

[WinExodus]

I definitely don't like bubble sounds on my volume control. I think it's completely unnecessary.

[arjaybe]

Running live in Virtualbox. When I try alternative menus it changes the menu icon from MX to generic Plasma one. It stays that way when I switch back.

After switching menus, the list of applications in Favorites is changed to what looks like a combination of MX and Plasma entries.

Since I was live in VB, I ran QSI there.

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System:
  Host: mx1 Kernel: 5.6.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
  parameters: quiet splasht nosplash 
  Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM 
  Distro: MX-19.2_KDE-beta2_x64 patito feo July 5  2020 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:
  Type: Virtualbox System: innotek product: VirtualBox v: 1.2 serial: <filter> 
  Chassis: Oracle Corporation type: 1 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Oracle model: VirtualBox v: 1.2 serial: <filter> BIOS: innotek v: VirtualBox 
  date: 12/01/2006 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Celeron 1007U bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Ivy Bridge 
  family: 6 model-id: 3A (58) stepping: 9 microcode: 19 L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 5987 
  Speed: 1497 MHz min/max: N/A Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1497 2: 1497 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Vulnerable 
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: VMware SVGA II Adapter driver: vmwgfx v: 2.17.0.0 bus ID: 00:02.0 
  chip ID: 15ad:0405 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: vmware unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
  compositor: kwin_x11 resolution: 800x600~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: SVGA3D; build v: 2.1 Mesa 20.0.7 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801AA AC97 Audio driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus ID: 00:05.0 
  chip ID: 8086:2415 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.0-2-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet driver: e1000 v: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI 
  port: d020 bus ID: 00:03.0 chip ID: 8086:100e 
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Intel 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI type: network bridge driver: piix4_smbus 
  v: N/A port: d200 bus ID: 00:07.0 chip ID: 8086:7113 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 8.00 GiB used: 65.0 MiB (0.8%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: VirtualBox model: VBOX HARDDISK size: 8.00 GiB block size: 
  physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 1.0 
  scheme: MBR 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 1.12 GiB used: 64.7 MiB (5.6%) fs: overlay 
  source: ERR-102 
  ID-2: swap-1 size: 1024.0 MiB used: 268 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap 
  swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:
  Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured? 
Repos:
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
  2: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster ahs
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:
  Processes: 166 Uptime: 3m Memory: 1.45 GiB used: 515.4 MiB (34.6%) Init: SysVinit 
  v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 
  running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

[chrispop99]

I definitely don't like bubble sounds on my volume control. I think it's completely unnecessary.

It's easy enough to turn it off. Right-click is your friend...

KDE has many more configurations than the other desktop environments.

Chris

[WinExodus]

It's easy enough to turn it off. Right-click is your friend...

KDE has many more configurations than the other desktop environments.

Chris

This is not obvious at all for someone new to KDE or even Linux in general. I'm trying to look at this from a UX perspective.

I believe this should be off by default, as every other OS I've used does not have volume control sounds. It definitely ruins immersion when listening to songs.

EDIT: And just to add to this, if I use my volume control on my keyboard, for example, and I quickly change the volume, it gets "frozen" on that bubble sound for a few seconds sometimes.

[kc1di]

I think the sounds on the volume control are good thing. So it's a personal taste thing.
Thanks Adrian for the reply. I kind of thought that but I've seen it done both ways in other distros. So thought I would ask.