MX-19.2 KDE Beta 1 feedback thread

[ChrisLilly]

I love that MX will have a supported KDE spin. I have been using MX with the repo KDE desktop for months and love it. But it uses about 800mb on idle whereas the Beta is using around 500 +/-. I am running the Beta on an old Thinkpad E520 i3 laptop with a lexar 128gb SSD. So nothing exciting for the test drive.
Here are the issues I have encountered in the last few days:

-Kwin always fails on boot.

-When adding Ksysgard, MX Tools and Info center to the panel only multiple failed URLs were created the first time or two. I deleted these and after some tinkering (and maybe the last update?) the "add to panel" function seems to be working better.

-Sound defaults to Dummy Audio, even after being changed to internal analogue device. I could get speaker output yesterday, but not today. No sound at all. Serious issue.

-I upgraded the Libreoffice to 6.4.5.2 (the flatpack version which includes, among others, the breeze theme unlike the Debian backport version). Flatpack would not install the full Libreoffice suite alongside the original but instead attempted to merge them resulting in a hybrid of bits of each version. When I deleted the Libreoffice 6.1 and rebooted, this did resolve itself, leaving a full suite of 6.4.5.2. It was easily enough resolved, but I would not wish the experience on a newcomer to MX Linux.

-My last point is really minor. The splash screen flashing on and off during shut down is weirdly disturbing.

I hope you don't mind if I throw in a repo wish. If the MX basic repository includes the most recent stable Libreoffice, could it please include the whole set of themes? I hate Tango, Colibre is okay, but I far prefer Breeze. It is easy enough for me to install a Flatpack or download direct from The Document Foundation, but it would be far easier, especially for a newbie to Linux with a large enough learning curve. And I would love to see MX as one of those top new user referrals like Mint or Ubuntu.

Quick system info:


System:
 Host: mxKDEBeta Kernel: 5.6.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0  
 parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.6.0-2-amd64  
 root=UUID=f4f0ef66-010c-4b81-a390-01026dfbb768 ro quiet splash  
 Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM  
 Distro: MX-19.2_KDE-beta1_x64 patito feo July 5  2020  
 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)  
Machine:
 Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 1143ADU v: ThinkPad E520 serial: <filter>  
 Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter>  
 Mobo: LENOVO model: 1143ADU serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: LENOVO  
 v: 8HET40WW(1.22) date: 11/03/2011  
Battery:
 ID-1: BAT0 charge: 37.3 Wh condition: 38.0/47.5 Wh (80%) volts: 12.5/10.8  
 model: SANYO LNV-42T4751 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown  
CPU:
 Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-2350M bits: 64 type: MT MCP  
 arch: Sandy Bridge family: 6 model-id: 2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 2F  
 L2 cache: 3072 KiB  
 flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 18358  
 Speed: 1300 MHz min/max: 800/2300 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1300 2: 1472 3: 1206  
 4: 2042  
 Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages  
 Type: l1tf  
 mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable  
 Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable  
 Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI  
 Type: spec_store_bypass  
 mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp  
 Type: spectre_v1  
 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization  
 Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW,  
 STIBP: conditional, RSB filling  
 Type: srbds status: Not affected  
 Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected  
Graphics:
 Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics  
 vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0116  
 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa  
 compositor: kwin_x11 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz  
 OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 3000 (SNB GT2) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.0.7  
 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes  
Audio:
 Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo  
 driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1c20  
 Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.0-2-amd64  
Network:
 Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Lenovo  
 driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 5000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168  
 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>  
 Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce v: kernel  
 port: 3000 bus ID: 08:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8176  
 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>  
Drives:
 Local Storage: total: 260.76 GiB used: 8.88 GiB (3.4%)  
 ID-1: /dev/mmcblk0 vendor: SanDisk model: SL32G size: 29.72 GiB block size:  
 physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> scheme: MBR  
 ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Lexar model: SSD size: 111.79 GiB block size:  
 physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 6 scheme: MBR  
 ID-3: /dev/sdb vendor: Dogfish model: SSD 128GB size: 119.24 GiB block size:  
 physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 7A  
 scheme: MBR  
Partition:
 ID-1: / raw size: 109.76 GiB size: 107.53 GiB (97.97%) used: 8.88 GiB (8.3%)  
 fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1  
 ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap  
 swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda2  
Sensors:
 System Temperatures: cpu: 35.0 C mobo: N/A  
 Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0  
Repos:
 No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list  
 Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list  
 1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
 Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list  
 1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
 2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
 Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list  
 1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
 2: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster ahs
 No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list  
Info:
 Processes: 188 Uptime: 19m Memory: 7.69 GiB used: 646.9 MiB (8.2%) Init: SysVinit  
 v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3  
 running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36  




Well, enough complaints for today. Did I mention that I love what you are doing? KDE on MX is absolutely awesome! Thank You so much for creating this awesome distro. With recent "Snappy" developments (which I will not discuss further) it is very likely MX will become my primary production OS! Thanks again!

[asqwerth]

Pls provide your Quick System Info for some context on the issues you have encountered. You are using an old ThinkPad, perhaps the sound card might have some bearing on your sounds issues.

I've not had issues adding MX tools and other apps to panel (nor using pin to taskbar).

[Gerson]

I'm having problems with small freezes having only Vivaldi open with 4 tabs, Telegram and TextMaker. Sometimes it recovers by itself, in less than a minute, in other times it closes everything and leaves a black screen, I have to turn it off with the button and in other occasions it closes and returns me to the Login screen.

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System:
  Host: mx Kernel: 5.6.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 
  compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.6.0-2-amd64 
  root=UUID=340b7a5c-2bba-41ae-ab7a-3c8ae3912a33 ro quiet 
  splash 
  Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 info: latte-dock 
  wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM 
  Distro: MX-19.2_KDE-beta1_x64 patito feo July 5  2020 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: NOBLEX product: SF20BA v: N/A 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: NOBLEX model: SF20BA serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: American Megatrends v: 3.02.00.NOL.Test7 x64 
  date: 07/14/2017 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 29.0 Wh 
  condition: 29.0/30.4 Wh (96%) volts: 8.6/7.6 
  model: Standard SF20BA type: Li-ion serial: <filter> 
  status: Unknown 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Celeron N3060 bits: 64 
  type: MCP arch: Airmont family: 6 model-id: 4C (76) 
  stepping: 4 microcode: 411 L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 6400 
  Speed: 1308 MHz min/max: 480/2480 MHz 
  Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1308 2: 702 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit 
  status: Not affected 
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected 
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers 
  and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, 
  IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: disabled, RSB 
  filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor 
  x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics 
  driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
  chip ID: 8086:22b1 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa compositor: kwin_x11 
  resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 400 (BSW) 
  v: 4.6 Mesa 20.0.7 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor 
  x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series High Definition Audio 
  vendor: Elite Systems driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:2284 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.0-2-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wireless 3165 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel 
  port: f040 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 8086:3165 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB 
  used: 62.99 GiB (52.8%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Foresee model: 128GB SSD 
  size: 119.24 GiB block size: physical: 512 B 
  logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 2 
  scheme: GPT 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: 17.33 GiB size: 16.94 GiB (97.71%) 
  used: 7.65 GiB (45.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 
  ID-2: /home raw size: 29.30 GiB 
  size: 28.71 GiB (98.00%) used: 15.09 GiB (52.6%) 
  fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 
  ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap 
  swappiness: 5 (default 60) 
  cache pressure: 50 (default 100) dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb https://espejito.fder.edu.uy/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
  2: deb https://espejito.fder.edu.uy/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/softmaker.list 
  1: deb http://shop.softmaker.com/repo/apt wheezy non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list 
  1: deb http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Info:
  Processes: 202 Uptime: 11m Memory: 3.76 GiB 
  used: 1.33 GiB (35.3%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 
  runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 
  Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 running in: quick-system-in 
  inxi: 3.0.36 

[Sparky]

@d_o - thank you. I missed that app. It did ask me for the password when I launched it. I guess I was trying to learn the KDE way.

Seaken64

Yeah, we'd like to fix that, it would be great if somebody could point us to a fix or something, it's hard to believe that KDE is broken like that in Buster...

to change the time in KDE, right click on the time icon and select congigure digital clock, there you will find a few things you can change.

[MAYBL8]

I know I might be getting ahead of things but will we be able to get newer releases of KDE in the Test Repo in the future?
Like 5.19 or 5.20? Since we are 5.14.

[dolphin_oracle]

I know I might be getting ahead of things but will we be able to get newer releases of KDE in the Test Repo in the future?
Like 5.19 or 5.20? Since we are 5.14.

probably not.

the Qt library situation in debian...is problematic.

[danielson]

MX KDE is the best thus far!
It's probably the longest i have ever run a Linux OS and as beta, it hasn't crashed a single time from day one!

Kudos to the MX team!!

[uncle mark]

I know I might be getting ahead of things but will we be able to get newer releases of KDE in the Test Repo in the future?
Like 5.19 or 5.20? Since we are 5.14.

probably not.

the Qt library situation in debian...is problematic.

Latest and greatest should be way down the priority list.

[seaken64]

@d_o - thank you. I missed that app. It did ask me for the password when I launched it. I guess I was trying to learn the KDE way.

Seaken64

Yeah, we'd like to fix that, it would be great if somebody could point us to a fix or something, it's hard to believe that KDE is broken like that in Buster...

to change the time in KDE, right click on the time icon and select congigure digital clock, there you will find a few things you can change.

That didn't work for me. There appears to be some bug in that applet and it won't ask and accept a password. Hopefully that applet can be disabled and the MX Date&Time app can be run in it's place.

Seaken64

[Gerson]

That's funny. I was just expressing my problem here about the untimely freezing and shutting down so that everything now works normally.