MX-19.2 KDE Beta 1 feedback thread

[richb]

Hello There,
Nice work already. Thanks a lot.
Didn't try it myself for now, but it seems someone have found a bug with Muon :
https://youtu.be/1fCl_wLu8Vk?t=595
Muon > Configuration > Configure Software Sources. (open Software Sources window "software-properties-kde")
pop up appears > password entered but validation didn't seem to respond, with no message...

I cannot duplicate this. After entering the password the sources dialog pops up where you can edit the sources.

[asqwerth]

When I clicked on configure software sources, the software sources window opened right up without password.

But I experienced the same issue with DIscover in alpha 1 or 2, and the issue was that it was expecting user password (sudo), not root password. That might be what is happening here, because I had only just run sudo in my terminal, so I would still be within the time period during which other sudo tasks could be done without password. That would explain why I didn't need a password for the Sources config window, which would mean there is an issue with Muon, namely it requires different passwords for different tasks.

[fehlix]

Hello There,
Nice work already. Thanks a lot.
Didn't try it myself for now, but it seems someone have found a bug with Muon :
https://youtu.be/1fCl_wLu8Vk?t=595
Muon > Configuration > Configure Software Sources. (open Software Sources window "software-properties-kde")
pop up appears > password entered but validation didn't seem to respond, with no message...

I cannot duplicate this. After entering the password the sources dialog pops up where you can edit the sources.

I think, he entered the wrong (root's) password instead of user-password. kdesu seem to have a bug, when entering wrong password it hangs.

[asqwerth]

Whenever I install updates using the green updater icon in the notification area, something triggers the notification icon's right click menu to open. I think the menu also pops up after I install/remove something using muon, just after I close muon.

[richb]

Whenever I install updates using the green updater icon in the notification area, something triggers the notification icon's right click menu to open. I think the menu also pops up after I install/remove something using muon, just after I close muon.

confirmed.

[Laurentius]

Hello.
Here running live iso on celeron netbook.
I'm not used to kde so can't help much.
If there was a TO-DO test list I would gladly follow it.

Everything seems quite fine.
wifi ok
blootooth ok - i could pair a speaker device and use and my android phone. but when i clicked send file an error message appeared.
The apt notifier didn't show updates but untill I did an apt update.

The bad thing here is the touchpad.
If I boot with the iso I burned with multisystem, the touchpad works bad. It is painful. Does not seem to tell between single finger behavior (simple move) and double finger (scroll).
If I boot with the iso burned with mx usb maker (full feature) the touchpad device was not found at all.
By the way, to see the special MX otptions at boot screen I had to configure the uefi/bios (??) to "Legacy first".

netbook specs (QSI worked fine for me):

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System:
  Host: mx1 Kernel: 5.6.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=(loop)/antiX/vmlinuz fromhd=UUID=56E7-94FA 
  fromiso=/MX-19.2_KDE-beta1_x64.iso quiet splasht 
  Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM 
  Distro: MX-19.2_KDE-beta1_x64 patito feo July 5  2020 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Intel product: Intel powered classmate PC v: Clamshell 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: NULL type: 9 v: 0.1 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Intel model: Intel powered classmate PC v: Clamshell serial: <filter> 
  UEFI [Legacy]: Phoenix v: MPBYT10A.88F.0039.2016.0622.1403 date: 06/22/2016 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 32.2 Wh condition: 32.2/36.6 Wh (88%) volts: 12.5/11.1 
  model: ECS CMPC type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Celeron N2808 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Silvermont 
  family: 6 model-id: 37 (55) stepping: 8 microcode: 838 L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 6333 
  Speed: 1011 MHz min/max: 500/2249 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1011 2: 1009 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
  Type: mds 
  status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display 
  vendor: Elite Systems driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0f31 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  compositor: kwin_x11 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (BYT) v: 4.2 Mesa 20.0.7 
  compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio 
  vendor: Elite Systems driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  chip ID: 8086:0f04 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.0-2-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtl8723be 
  v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:b723 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Elite Systems RTL810xE driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 1000 bus ID: 02:00.0 
  chip ID: 10ec:8136 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 494.60 GiB used: 44.28 GiB (9.0%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000LPCX-22VHAT0 size: 465.76 GiB 
  block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s rotation: 5400 rpm 
  serial: <filter> rev: 1A01 scheme: GPT 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DataTraveler 2.0 size: 28.84 GiB 
  block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: PMAP scheme: MBR 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 2.94 GiB used: 639.8 MiB (21.2%) fs: overlay 
  source: ERR-102 
  ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 3.8 MiB (0.1%) fs: swap 
  swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda7 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
  2: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster ahs
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:
  Processes: 184 Uptime: 59m Memory: 3.73 GiB used: 1.41 GiB (37.9%) Init: SysVinit 
  v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 
  running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

If you try to close a window on a modified and unsaved document on a non qt app some apps like libreoffice or mousepad, in the dialog that opens up asking you to Save, Don't save or Cancel, you cannot tell which option is selected because no one is highlighted. Only if you hover with the mouse a super tiny blue frame is barely seen. (if you don't have a mouse or want to use keybard this is not good). (Though this is a kde problem, I think, not MX)

Although they have launchers in the panel, I would add dolphin and firefox to start menu's favorites section.
May be it would be a good choice to use Icons only task bar and grouped applications instead of labelled buttons with no grouping (as Mint did) to take advantage of this kde feature and thus offer a WS7/10-like desktop experience (I don't mean this is better, just say that would feel more familiar to a lot of people). EDIT: I now see that the current widget has already an auto smart grouping feature. That's great. (as I said, I'm not used to kde)

I would also add some shortcuts to defaults like Show desktop or switch to adjacents (up/down) workspaces.

On my main drive (2009 dual core compaq cq40) the iso did not boot. Neither the multisystem nor the mx-maker one.

Cq-40 specs (taken from a previous post):

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System:    Host: cq40mx Kernel: 4.19.0-9-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.3_x64 Continuum December 15  2017 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: Compaq Presario CQ40 Notebook PC 
           v: F.31 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Compal model: 3607 v: 99.97 serial: <filter> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: F.31 
           date: 02/03/2009 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 95.0 Wh condition: 95.0/95.0 Wh (100%) 
           model: Hewlett-Packard Primary status: Full 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Pentium T4200 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn rev: A 
           L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 7979 
           Speed: 1885 MHz min/max: 1200/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1885 2: 1907 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: intel resolution: 1280x800~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express v: 2.1 Mesa 18.2.6 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-9-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Broadcom Limited BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: wl v: kernel port: 7000 bus ID: 03:00.0 
           IF: wlan0 state: dormant mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 04:00.0 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 149.05 GiB used: 91.80 GiB (61.6%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: HM160HI size: 149.05 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 14.36 GiB used: 11.72 GiB (81.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5 
           ID-2: /home size: 114.33 GiB used: 80.07 GiB (70.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 1.96 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           1: deb http://liveusb.info/multisystem/depot/ all main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch/ stretch main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release-.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stretch main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://debian.unnoba.edu.ar/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://debian.unnoba.edu.ar/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/megasync.list 
           1: deb https://mega.nz/linux/MEGAsync/Debian_9.0/ ./
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list 
           1: deb http://repository.spotify.com/ stable non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 200 Uptime: 19m Memory: 3.76 GiB used: 1.06 GiB (28.2%) Init: SysVinit 
           runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.0.36 

[Gerson]

please provide a link where I can download the problematic appimage. Thanks!

Este es:
https://mail.tutanota.com/desktop/tutan ... x.AppImage

You need to enable kernel-sandbox'ing with MX-Tweak -> Other, to make it run.

There, I did it and now it works, thank you very much.

[Auro Kumar Sahoo]

Today I checked the beta kde 19.2, I can connect network through wire, but no wifi detected. I checked there is no wifi button side to airplane radio button of network notification.

[asqwerth]

Could you post your qsi, Auro?

Also, did you check the checksums of the downloaded iso?

In your last line, are you saying there is no icon in the panel for WiFi/network Connection?

[kksmith]

Hi,

I'm a KDE user long time Fedora, ...Don't you forget .Conky. ANd give us 10 terminal with bunch of bloatware on startup! Awesom. Bluerrrghh!

kids, see what happens when you fry your brains...dont do drugs.