MX-19.2 KDE Beta 1 feedback thread

[Sparky]

It looks great and runs great. I only had a side effect. When I startup the computer It asks for what kind of session I want, XFCE, Plasma, or fluxbox. Not sure how fluxbox got there.

[dolphin_oracle]

It looks great and runs great. I only had a side effect. When I startup the computer It asks for what kind of session I want, XFCE, Plasma, or fluxbox. Not sure how fluxbox got there.

where does it ask?

only plasma is on the iso.

[uncle mark]

Any chance Synaptic could be added and MX-Update call that instead of Muon?

[asqwerth]

Any chance Synaptic could be added and MX-Update call that instead of Muon?

I believe that fehlix worked on mx-updater so that if SYnaptic is on your system in place of muon, apt-notifier will call it.

You could test these changes to mx-updater by installing Synaptic yourself and removing muon - if you don't mind the risk of messing with this beta. After all, this is the testing period.

[richb]

Any chance Synaptic could be added and MX-Update call that instead of Muon?

I believe that fehlix worked on mx-updater so that if SYnaptic is on your system in place of muon, apt-notifier will call it.

You could test these changes to mx-updater by installing Synaptic yourself and removing muon - if you don't mind the risk of messing with this beta. After all, this is the testing period.

That is the way it works for me. Synaptic installed and that is what apt-updater shows.But I left Muon installed for testing purposes.

[fehlix]

Any chance Synaptic could be added and MX-Update call that instead of Muon?

I believe that fehlix worked on mx-updater so that if SYnaptic is on your system in place of muon, apt-notifier will call it.

You could test these changes to mx-updater by installing Synaptic yourself and removing muon - if you don't mind the risk of messing with this beta. After all, this is the testing period.

The logic changed within apt-notifer: If synaptic is installed, apt-notifier will use it. Otherwise if muon is found it will use muon. The right-click menu in apt-notifier, will change accordingly after installing synaptic, but you would need to close apt-notifier and start MX Updater again, to see the changes. You don't need to remove muon.

[fehlix]

One tiny thing I noticed (not even KDE-specific): if one clicks the About/Changelog button of apt-notifier, one gets a big *empty* window

As it apprears the KDE Beta1 ISO does not contain most the changelog files, probably due to space constrains.
So if you want to try it out, reinstall apt-notifer:

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sudo apt install --reinstall apt-notifier

and you should have the changelog visible.

[dolphin_oracle]

Sorry, I meant to include QSI.

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System:    Host: mxbrain-plasma Kernel: 5.6.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.6.0-2-amd64 root=/dev/sda7 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM 
           Distro: MX-19.2_KDE-beta1_x64 patito feo July 5  2020 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Gigabyte model: H170-HD3-CF v: x.x serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends 
           v: F4 date: 10/16/2015 
Battery:   Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard serial: <filter> 
           charge: 50% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: N/A 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-6500 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Skylake-S 
           family: 6 model-id: 5E (94) stepping: 3 microcode: DC L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 25599 
           Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 
           mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
           STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nvidia v: 440.82 
           bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:13c2 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: nvidia 
           unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv compositor: kwin_x11 
           resolution: 3840x2160~30Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 970/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 440.82 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: NVIDIA GM204 High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0fbb 
           Device-2: VIA ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O driver: snd_ice1712 v: kernel 
           bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 1412:1712 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.0-2-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: r8169 v: kernel port: c000 bus ID: 04:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 3.18 TiB used: 6.82 GiB (0.2%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WDS100T2B0B size: 931.51 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> 
           rev: 90WD scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD2002FAEX-007BA0 size: 1.82 TiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> 
           rev: 1D05 scheme: MBR 
           ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> 
           rev: 2B6Q scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 51.81 GiB size: 50.74 GiB (97.95%) used: 6.82 GiB (13.4%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 37.0 C mobo: 29.8 C gpu: nvidia temp: 38 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 0% 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mx.mirror.ausnetservers.net.au/packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mx.mirror.ausnetservers.net.au/packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 186 Uptime: 7m Memory: 15.60 GiB used: 1.13 GiB (7.3%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

^^ This copied automatically to the clipboard fine as it's supposed to.
It's a UEFI install using existing partitions with / on sda7 and ESP on sda1, no other partitions used for MX.

Here's minstall.log , I couldn't make sense of it as I don't quite know what to look for: http://paste.debian.net/1155421/

according to the log, grub was not installed.

[dolphin_oracle]

Just as an experiment I installed the xfce and desktop-defaults-mx-xfce metapackages hoping to be able to log out, select an Xfce session, log back in and get the same look and feel as in the current MX with Xfce but I just got a regular Debian-looking Xfce desktop and panel. Then I tried copying/pasting the contents of /etc/skel including hidden files from my host OS into my home directory in my MX KDE guest OS but it's still not looking like I want. I wonder if there's a way of bundling everything needed to give me an almost-complete MX Xfce DE as well as KDE? I don't care about things like the greeter or boot splash screen, just my Xfce desktop after I log in. Either an mx-xfce metapackage in one of the repos or an MX Xfce entry in Popular Apps/Desktop Environments. This would make it easier for support helpers: we could easily switch between the two DEs on a single installed system rather than taking up extra disk space for a dual-boot between two installed versions of MX then having to boot back and forth between them, plus logging out and in is faster than rebooting. Is it possible to have both default desktops in MX KDE?

all our Xfce settings are in the desktop-defaults-mx-xfce packages. there must be someting screwy with your copy from /etc/skel. I don't know how you did it, but don't do it while running Xfce...it won't work that way.

[rrhobbs]

On boot there is a notice ... in Grub I guess? "(VMX) outside text not allowed per bios"

Such warning can be ignored. OTOH, have you disable VM-bits (VT-x in intel) in bios. You might try to anable VT / Vm in bios.
Here some patch discussion on kerenel.org:
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11250771/
So probably nothing to worry about ...

Thanks I went into the bios it looks like there is a switch to allow virtual machine (I have it turned off)