Bluetooth Mouse laggy on MX19 B3

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Bluetooth Mouse laggy on MX19 B3

#1 Post by mcx »

Hi there,

I was a previous user of MX18 and have a Bluetooth mouse. I never noticed it on 18 but on 19B3 my mouse is noticeably laggy and not nice to use. Using my trackpad all is fine. I am running MX on an old 2011 Macbook Air and everything else looks to run great. Anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot Bluetooth mice?

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MCX

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Re: Bluetooth Mouse laggy on MX19 B3

#2 Post by JayM »

Welcome to the forum. As MX-19 beta 3 isn't a supported release but was for beta testing only, and as it's already been superseded by the first release candidate, I would welcome you to either install the latest official version of MX which is 18.3 or wait until MX-19 is actually released which appears to be soon. Of course you could install MX-19RC1 and help with its testing but bear in mind that it's a release candidate not an official release so there may still be a few bugs, that the packaging team are still working hard on the MX-19 repositories and some things you want might not be there yet, and that there's a dedicated feedback topic for 19RC1 already, found at https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 94#p533594.
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Re: Bluetooth Mouse laggy on MX19 B3

#3 Post by mcx »

Thanks, yes have moved back to 18.3 and shes all good again. I'll wait for the official releases I guess :) thanks for your help.

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Re: Bluetooth Mouse laggy on MX19 B3

#4 Post by Eadwine Rose »

I would actually like it if you tried RC1, see if the issue is there as well. When it is, please post about it in the feedback thread here: https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=53330

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Re: Bluetooth Mouse laggy on MX19 B3

#5 Post by mcx »

Just updated to the latest MX19 release and the issue is happening again. The trackpad is perfect just the Bluetooth mouse is noticeably laggy.

It is a Logitech Logi, M585/M590

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Re: Bluetooth Mouse laggy on MX19 B3

#6 Post by JayM »

Please run MX Tools/Quick System Info, then right-click paste into a reply. (Quick System Info automatically copies the information to your clipboard, already formatted properly for pasting into the forum so all you have to do is a right-click/ paste, not a copy/paste.) Thanks.
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Re: Bluetooth Mouse laggy on MX19 B3

#7 Post by mcx »

Thanks, here is is:

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System:    Host: mx Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-6-amd64 
           root=UUID=9db14efd-96bb-4d80-859d-3c1f23973971 ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-19_x64 patito feo October 21  2019 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Apple product: MacBookAir4,2 v: 1.0 serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 10 v: Mac-742912EFDBEE19B3 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Apple model: Mac-742912EFDBEE19B3 v: MacBookAir4,2 serial: <filter> UEFI: Apple 
           v: 135.0.0.0.0 date: 06/14/2019 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 35.3 Wh condition: 35.3/50.2 Wh (70%) volts: 8.3/7.5 
           model: SMP bq20z451 type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: Full cycles: 496 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-2557M bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
           arch: Sandy Bridge family: 6 model-id: 2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 2F 
           L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 13600 
           Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/2700 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: l1tf 
           mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
           STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics 
           vendor: Apple driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0116 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1440x900~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1c20 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-6-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Broadcom Limited BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n vendor: Apple AirPort Extreme 
           driver: wl v: kernel port: efa0 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 14e4:4353 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 127.72 GiB used: 9.74 GiB (7.6%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Apple model: SSD SM128C size: 113.00 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 9A1Q scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Verbatim model: STORE N GO size: 14.72 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1100 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 110.72 GiB size: 108.48 GiB (97.98%) used: 9.74 GiB (9.0%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 53.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/buster buster main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 212 Uptime: 2h 37m Memory: 3.77 GiB used: 831.7 MiB (21.6%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

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Re: Bluetooth Mouse laggy on MX19 B3

#8 Post by joele »

Same issue here on MX 19 final.. was fine on MX18.3 but weird laggyness on MX19, very unpleasant... Tried usb adpated mouse and that is fine, just when over bluetooth..

my info

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System:    Host: joellaptop Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.19.0-6-amd64 
           root=UUID=b2443301-f3ee-4bde-93e4-79cbb6d9f491 ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-19_x64 patito feo October 21  2019 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: ZenBook UX433FA_UX433FA v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: UX433FA v: 1.0 serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends 
           v: UX433FA.308 date: 06/04/2019 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 34.4 Wh condition: 48.9/50.1 Wh (98%) volts: 11.9/11.9 
           model: ASUSTeK ASUS Battery type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Discharging 
           cycles: 23 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-8565U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Kaby Lake 
           family: 6 model-id: 8E (142) stepping: C (12) microcode: B8 L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 31872 
           Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 400/4600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 
           5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:3ea0 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (Whiskey Lake 3x8 GT2) 
           v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Cannon Point-LP High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:9dc8 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-6-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Cannon Point-LP CNVi [Wireless-AC] driver: iwlwifi v: kernel 
           port: 4000 bus ID: 00:14.3 chip ID: 8086:9df0 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 248.34 GiB (52.1%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Kingston model: RBUSNS8154P3512GJ2 size: 476.94 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 15.8 Gb/s lanes: 2 serial: <filter> 
           rev: E8FK11.Q scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 474.14 GiB size: 465.70 GiB (98.22%) used: 248.26 GiB (53.3%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0 
           ID-2: /boot raw size: 512.0 MiB size: 487.9 MiB (95.30%) used: 81.0 MiB (16.6%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 1.98 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/dm-1 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 34.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/buster buster main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list 
           1: deb http://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable main
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 261 Uptime: 15m Memory: 15.48 GiB used: 1.16 GiB (7.5%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

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Re: Bluetooth Mouse laggy on MX19 B3

#9 Post by JayM »

If you right-click on the blueman applet in your panel and select devices, if your mouse is shown there, there may be some configuration settings.

Also, if you look at plugins there may be some that you can disable such as headset, networking, PPP support, game controller wakelock and so on. You'll have to be the one to decide which ones can be safely disabled though. Disabling support for unused bluetooth items may improve mouse response.

Another idea: if the mouse is battery-powered (which it probably is) try replacing the battery with a fresh one. Maybe it's getting a bit weak and that's showing up more in MX-19: maybe it takes a bit more juice from the mouse's battery to maintain a good connection with MX-19 than with MX-18 for some reason.

Still another idea: temporarily move the mouse to the other side of your Zenbook and see if it's any better. It's possible that the bluetooth radio in the computer isn't getting as much power in MX-19 and the metal casing of the laptop is enough to partially block the signal.

(Disclaimer: I use a wireless mouse but it uses a USB dongle, not a bluetooth connection, so I can't actually test any of these things myself.)
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Re: Bluetooth Mouse laggy on MX19 B3

#10 Post by joele »

Tried disabling most of the plugins, moving the mouse and put in new battery, all no change.

I'm not sure if it is lag or more the refresh rate is REALLY slow when used in MX 19..

Anyway for now I have switched back to using dongle.. If anyone has anything else to test, I am happy to try..

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