xfce 4.14 released

[winemaker]

thanks jerry - cannot wait to check out 19.

[jeffreyC]

Style customization has changed a lot with the move to GTK 3.

Very true! The GTK3 devs consider the ability to customize themes a bug, which is why the API changes so much each release.

[oops]

OK, everything seems to be settled in the repo now.

For the adventurous, here's how to get 4.1.4 from the OBS repo:

It seems that the xfce4-messenger, cellmodem, and quicklaunch plugins are not longer maintained and will be removed by this update. I got the rest of the plugins updated.

For a Stretch base, run the all the following in a root terminal, to prepare, add the repo and its key, then update apt:

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echo 'deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser:/xfce-4.14/Debian_9.0/ /' > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/home:stevenpusser:xfce-4.14.list

rm -f Release.key && wget -nv https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:stevenpusser:xfce-4.14/Debian_9.0/Release.key -O Release.key

apt-key add - < Release.key && rm -f Release.key

apt update

and then upgrade:

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apt full-upgrade

or use MX Updater. Then log out and back in.

Your present theme may not support GTK 3 well, so you might have to switch to one that does. Your Conky on the desktop may also lose its pseudotransparency, but I think you just need to change one word in its file to get it back. Look for a line(s) that says

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own_window_argb_visual no

and change that "no" to "yes", then turn on compositing in MX Tweak.

We are getting some input now from the XFCE developers that the 4.14 XFCE compositor may have some issues with the default glx backend with AMD and Nvidia graphics drivers. AMD seems to work better with xrender. We are discussing making that easy to set in MX Tweak instead of the rather obscure commands you need in the terminal now. Intel GPUs should be fine with the default setting.

The repo also has armhf (Pi) and arm64 packages, as well as separate repos for Raspian 9 and 10. Debian Buster users can use the same directions, except replace "Debian_9.0" with "Debian_10.0" in the two places it appears.

Thank you Steve for the tuto ... Done and works great here without issue yet.

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xfce4-panel --version
# or xfce4-about

About the 4.14;
https://xfce.org/about/tour

[SkOrPn]

Is it safe to try upgrading to 4.14 now while on MX18.3? Or would it be safer to simply try MX19 final beta?

EDIT: Installed just fine. Thanks

Did you install from my outside OBS repo?

I followed your directions on page 3 from post #23. The only issue I had was with the conky transparency, which was hard to find the correct setting considering it is listed several times and I only seen the first one. But I figured it out. Thanks again...

[r3vilo]

I'm hoping with GTK3/Xfce 4.14/MX-19 my system is still as fast as it is now. My laptop is a bit old and it's running perfectly smooth with MX-18 now. I don't wanna have a slow system, even when it looks better.

[Jerry3904]

Doubt that you will notice any slowdown.

[oops]

FI: I do not have noticed any slowdown on my small eepc MSI U123 (32 bits).

[r3vilo]

OK, Sounds good. Thank you.

[JayM]

If anything I think you'll find that it's even faster.