MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

[JayM]

its the lack of a opengl renderer.

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Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GT216M [GeForce GT 230M] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: nvidia 
           v: 340.107 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:0a28 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: nvidia resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: N/A v: N/A direct render: N/A 
           

you may want to change vlc's default renderer from automatic to X11.

Changing from automatic to X11 fixed vlc, thanks! All that remains is guvcview not working. Which could also be due to lacking the proper opengl renderer. The question is why wasn't it installed along with the Nvidia legacy 340.107 driver in 19b3? When I installed the same driver in 18.3 I got

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Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GT216M [GeForce GT 230M] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: nvidia 
           v: 340.107 bus ID: 01:00.0 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: nvidia resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 230M/PCIe/SSE2 v: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.107 
           direct render: Yes 

I noticed that I have both the 64-bit and 32-bit versions of the libegl1, libgl1, libgles1 and 2 Nvidia and libnvidia opengl libraries installed when I look in Synaptic. Actually, for all Nvidia-related libraries. I'll boot back into 18.3 and check what's installed there...

Edit: nope, that's not it. I see the same thing in 18.

[Richard]

The question is why wasn't it installed along with the Nvidia legacy 340.107 driver in 19b3?

The purpose of beta software is to find bugs, omissions, oversights, etc.
Thanks for testing and finding things that need fixing.

[tascoast]

Best: new install with the RC, which is the next step and will upgrade directly to Final.

Nice. I should put RC into the beta partition and begin revising others. I still like using MX-16 with Handbrake sometimes, or testing wifi, both it seems to do well.

[entropyfoe]

OK, still trying to diagnose my lock-ups, so did fsck from live USB. (MX19 beta 3-64 bit) I ran for a day off the live USB with no lock-ups, so I wanted to install to the SSD.

I thought I would try the "check for bad blocks" option.

It errors out "failed to format required partitions. The installer window is greyed out, with a little spinning circle. That went 15 minutes, so I stopped the install. It warns the check takes longer, but how long? It was installing to a 100G partition, mostly empty, with a about 6G previous beta install.

So I installed without the bad block check, and all is working as with the earlier betas. Posting from beta 3 now. I need a day or three to test for stability. I hope my SSD is not going bad. Seems unlikely that a power outage would hit the SSD, a nvme on the board. Yet I had 26 hours no crash running from the USB, but 1 to 3 crashes per day with betas 3 AND my usually rock solid 18.3, which can have 50-80 days uptime.

Is that the expected result if you check for bad blocks with the installer? Shouldn't there be some message..."Checking for bad blocks, please wait" or something so the user knows to be patient.

[JayM]

I just discovered Settings/NVIDIA X Server Settings which I didn't know was there. In 19b3 when I click on OpenGL/GLX Information it closes the app. So there's something messed up with the legacy 340.170 driver in 19.

I'll try reinstalling using the driver from the test repo and see what happens, but when i tried that one in 18 and rebooted I got the Black Screen of death. Wish me luck, I'm going in...


...well, the one in the test repo (340.107.6 vs. .4 in stable) works. Still no joy re: OpenGL though:

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$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GT216M [GeForce GT 230M] driver: nvidia v: 340.107 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: nvidia resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: N/A v: N/A 

[Eadwine Rose]

1. What in my QSI makes you think I have only a partial Nvidia installation? It looks OK to me, I'm getting the Nvidia splash screen at boot, I have video and a GUI...

Wow.. I haven't seen the splash screen in ages. I wonder why it pops up for you and not for me.. I kinda liked it.

Sidenote thing, nothing of major importance, just found it interesting.

[JayM]

1. What in my QSI makes you think I have only a partial Nvidia installation? It looks OK to me, I'm getting the Nvidia splash screen at boot, I have video and a GUI...

Wow.. I haven't seen the splash screen in ages. I wonder why it pops up for you and not for me.. I kinda liked it.

Sidenote thing, nothing of major importance, just found it interesting.

It's probably something that still exists in the old legacy 340 drivers that I have to use but was removed from newer drivers.

[Eadwine Rose]

Ah.. I know it only appeared in the 'old' days for me, haven't seen it in a long time, so that could explain it. Maybe got removed in later versions. Too bad really. For me it was that welcome "aha, it's installed" moment

[Eadwine Rose]

Something weird just happened.


xfce4-goodies package.

Mark to install in Synaptic will complain about broken packages. Clicked fix packages and hit apply again.. won't do it, complains about them again.

Unmarked xfce4-goodies, then went back to apply and it installs all the packages in there anyway. I made a screenshot to cross check and see which packages would get installed when marking the package to be installed in the first place (so before the dependency thing popped up), cross-checked with what got installed, it's the same.

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Selecting previously unselected package libgtksourceview-3.0-common.
(Reading database ... 291840 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../0-libgtksourceview-3.0-common_3.24.9-2_all.deb ...
Unpacking libgtksourceview-3.0-common (3.24.9-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libgtksourceview-3.0-1:amd64.
Preparing to unpack .../1-libgtksourceview-3.0-1_3.24.9-2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libgtksourceview-3.0-1:amd64 (3.24.9-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libqrencode4:amd64.
Preparing to unpack .../2-libqrencode4_4.0.2-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libqrencode4:amd64 (4.0.2-1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libtagc0:amd64.
Preparing to unpack .../3-libtagc0_1.11.1+dfsg.1-0.3_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libtagc0:amd64 (1.11.1+dfsg.1-0.3) ...
Selecting previously unselected package mousepad.
Preparing to unpack .../4-mousepad_0.4.2-0mx19+1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking mousepad (0.4.2-0mx19+1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package ristretto.
Preparing to unpack .../5-ristretto_0.10.0-0mx19+1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking ristretto (0.10.0-0mx19+1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package thunar-media-tags-plugin.
Preparing to unpack .../6-thunar-media-tags-plugin_0.3.0-2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking thunar-media-tags-plugin (0.3.0-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package xfce4-clipman.
Preparing to unpack .../7-xfce4-clipman_2%3a1.4.3-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking xfce4-clipman (2:1.4.3-1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package xfce4-clipman-plugin.
Preparing to unpack .../8-xfce4-clipman-plugin_2%3a1.4.3-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking xfce4-clipman-plugin (2:1.4.3-1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package xfce4-dict.
Preparing to unpack .../9-xfce4-dict_0.8.2-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking xfce4-dict (0.8.2-1) ...
Setting up libqrencode4:amd64 (4.0.2-1) ...
Setting up libtagc0:amd64 (1.11.1+dfsg.1-0.3) ...
Setting up xfce4-dict (0.8.2-1) ...
Setting up ristretto (0.10.0-0mx19+1) ...
Setting up libgtksourceview-3.0-common (3.24.9-2) ...
Setting up thunar-media-tags-plugin (0.3.0-2) ...
Setting up xfce4-clipman (2:1.4.3-1) ...
Setting up libgtksourceview-3.0-1:amd64 (3.24.9-2) ...
Setting up xfce4-clipman-plugin (2:1.4.3-1) ...
Setting up mousepad (0.4.2-0mx19+1) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.62) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.17-2) ...
Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0:amd64 (2.58.3-2+deb10u1) ...
Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0:i386 (2.58.3-2+deb10u1) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.28-10) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.8.5-2) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.23-4) ...

Those packages are installed now, xfce4-goodies isn't marked as installed in the package overview.


For some reason I am thinking that shouldn't go like that.. no clue if this is something we can solve though.. *shrug* Figured I'd report it.

[Eadwine Rose]

To add to the above.. I just finished installing all I needed and found this in autoremovable:

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libgtksourceview-3.0-1 will be removed with configuration
libgtksourceview-3.0-common will be removed with configuration
libqrencode4 will be removed with configuration
mousepad will be removed with configuration
ristretto will be removed with configuration
xfce4-clipman will be removed with configuration
xfce4-clipman-plugin will be removed with configuration
xfce4-dict will be removed with configuration

(not applying to the code there, just did that to get an actual text listing available to paste)