MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

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bpr323
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Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

#301 Post by bpr323 »

dolphin_oracle wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:30 pm
bpr323 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:19 pm
dolphin_oracle wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:34 pm

I would love to see /var/log/minstall.log files for those 2 install cases.

BTW, if you formated the whole disk, you actually just made 1 big partition, so partition was involved, just not multiple partitions. This is an important distiction for the debugging, and it makes the difference between d and e interesting.

Also, what options did you use to create your LUM usb device? "Full-Featured" or "dd" mode.
Sorry, I didn't keep the logs after the final try which ended with successful install - I was stoked it finally worked for me!
I assumed the "live" logs would have been blown away anyway. But it's really easy to replicate just following my use cases :)
For LUM I used full-featured + optionals ticked for force gpt and force ext4 even if it exists
I do have some photos I was taking of Gparted screen with (i)'s related to missing data in failed partitions - do you want them?
In essence, the only path that worked was to create a new gpt partitions table and leave it unformatted w/o creating any actual partitions.
I'm guessing you want to make Minstall to trap the errors and do some overriding steps to process them as exceptions?
The biggest problem is the use case where user installs side by side with to keep a Windows install - then my "whole-disk" workaround would be a disaster.
But I didn't try those scenarios with "custom" (manual partitioning) install - if I need Windows, I'll install it on a "free" VMware workstation Player/Pro.
I think it's a deathwish to try and install Linux side by side with Win on the same disk - unless you're a masochist, of course
if any installs are still present, we copy it over to /var/log on installation.

I saw that only your one path worked, and the difference between the logs for d and e may tell us *why*. that's why the logs are so verbose. anything less than crazy amounts of output leaves us guessing to an extent.

I was working on a theory, but your stated method doesn't fit that theory 100%, so even the succesfull log will be useful.
Look, I admit I was selfish for not preserving the logs - I did the MX tools clean-up of 19b3 and deleted all left over stuff before taking a clean snapshot of my son's X1 g4 for cloning it on my other X1 g5.
Since:
a) I'm doing it anyway (it will blow away my 19b2.1 I'm running now), and
b) I was planning to test minstall of a snapshot from A to B, and
c) I assume installing a snapshot is the same as installing the "factory" ISO - I will do the following test plan:

Here's my X1 g5 partitions table that I will be upgrading from 19b2.1 to 19b3 using my son's X1 g4 snapshot
mx-19b21 partitions table.png
1) I will burn the USB on 19b2.1 using LUM (full + gpt + ext4)
2) I will try and auto-install 19b3 snapshot over 19b2.1 existing partitions - this should be a clean install, but one can't be sure ;)
3) Even if it works, I will boot up again from USB and gpt to msdos partition table and will format whole disk to NTFS (a very plausible scenario for a virgin install) + auto install
4) Then I will gpt the disk to gpt partition table and format whole disk to ext4 + auto install
Note - 3 & 4 will fail but will produce the logs for you
5) then I will do my "silver bullet" trick with gpt table and no partitions (this should work)

AS a bonus, I can try custom install to 19b2.1 existing partitions IF (2) fails - please tell me EXACTLY what to do on the next screen (what should go where)
Have I missed anything? Have I mentioned my son is 7 year old (yes, seven) minecraft fanatic? )))
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Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

#302 Post by Jerry3904 »

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Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

#303 Post by yuul »

Yo :alien: , I'm just starting to test it as well...

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((mainly cuz there's an annoying bug appearing in MX-18.3, and I wanna check if it's already solved in 19::
When I've lowered the Display-Brightness via Fn+arrow_keys, and put the laptop to sleep, after wake-up, I sometimes can't change the brightness at all, the Fn+arrow_keys just won't work.. ..needs a restart then.. [Lenovo G580]))

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Now, after installing mx19-beta3, there occured a problem on boot:

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...the "unknown key-type warning" is 'normal', it's somehow caused by the german "Neo2" keyboard layout, but mx-18 is running just fine with it.. *(and it wasn't there at all in mx17, if I remember correctly)*
However, since the msg at 14.116 was related to keyboards as well, I reinstalled with normal qwerty variant, and voila, all works fine. (Now I just load neo2 after booting..)
==>>Thought I post this here, in case the same error happens for other variants as well?!... ((cuz in 18 all worked, but in 19 it freezes on booting))


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Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

#304 Post by yuul »

Found a bug :-)

=> Clipit <=
..after pressing the keyboard-shortcut to popup it's history-window at the mouse-curser, the bug occurs. The history window doesn't open, an error shows up when started from a terminal, and henceforth you cannot acces the preferences (or any other context-menu) anymore... doing so just spawns an empty always-on-top 'window' in the upper right corner. It's still working, though, you can click on its taskliste-icon and choose your copied text from the list.
Killing clipit despawns the window up left; you can start it again and access preferences just fine...until you press the keyboard-shortcut; bug is repeatable..

( seems to only happen with the history-shortcut, the other shortcuts seem to work fine..)

=)


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Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

#305 Post by berlin59 »

Jerry3904 wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:59 am Have you read the HELP file on the screensaver?
Sorry, I discovered your answer right now.
I cannot find a HELP file on the screensaver. Looked on the support site, but cannot find it.

I uninstalled the screensaver but still the screen turns black after some time.

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Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

#306 Post by berlin59 »

Besides the sceensaver problem,
I found a bug with VLC player.
Playing a video with VLC works fine. But only once, because the button in the task-panel does not go away and it is not possible to start another video.
I have to kill the process using the task-manager. That is not pleasant to do because the processes jump all the time.

After the VLC process is killed, the button in the task panel disappears and I can start a new video using VLC.

This problem happened on the new KDEneon too. Everybody got it there because of a new xfce-update. They fixed it somehow with a patch, but I have no idea how they did it.
Just mention this because it looks identical here.

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Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

#307 Post by richb »

berlin59 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:22 pm Besides the sceensaver problem,
I found a bug with VLC player.
Playing a video with VLC works fine. But only once, because the button in the task-panel does not go away and it is not possible to start another video.
I have to kill the process using the task-manager. That is not pleasant to do because the processes jump all the time.

After the VLC process is killed, the button in the task panel disappears and I can start a new video using VLC.

This problem happened on the new KDEneon too. Everybody got it there because of a new xfce-update. They fixed it somehow with a patch, but I have no idea how they did it.
Just mention this because it looks identical here.
Same problem for me. I changed the entry in the whisker menu to /usr/bin/vlc and now it works normally.It shows in the panel when invoked and leaves the panel when it is closed. Probably not as intended as vlc should stay in the panel. Maybe there is another "proper" solution.
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Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

#308 Post by SwampRabbit »

dolphin_oracle wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:01 am doesn't surprise me necassirly with at TV, but you can use the Display settings app to turn off the "launch when connected" feature. I forget the exact name.
Turning off the following....
Display > Advanced Tab > Connecting Displays - Configure new displays when connected

Seemed to do the trick, Display window doesn’t pop up each time the TV goes to sleep and shuts off.
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Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

#309 Post by dolphin_oracle »

yuul wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:32 pm Found a bug :-)

=> Clipit <=
..after pressing the keyboard-shortcut to popup it's history-window at the mouse-curser, the bug occurs. The history window doesn't open, an error shows up when started from a terminal, and henceforth you cannot acces the preferences (or any other context-menu) anymore... doing so just spawns an empty always-on-top 'window' in the upper right corner. It's still working, though, you can click on its taskliste-icon and choose your copied text from the list.
Killing clipit despawns the window up left; you can start it again and access preferences just fine...until you press the keyboard-shortcut; bug is repeatable..

( seems to only happen with the history-shortcut, the other shortcuts seem to work fine..)

=)


https://i.postimg.cc/8P6dMFR4/beta19-bugs-clipit.jpg

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Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

#310 Post by berlin59 »

richb wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:06 pm Same problem for me. I changed the entry in the whisker menu to /usr/bin/vlc and now it works normally.It shows in the panel when invoked and leaves the panel when it is closed. Probably not as intended as vlc should stay in the panel. Maybe there is another "proper" solution.
Your trick doesn't work here.
I have my own trick. I installed SMPlayer and mkv-player. Both work fine.

On MX18.3 the problem is not there. VLC works as it should.

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