MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback

[dolphin_oracle]

I wonder about the sysvinit/LightDM restart/shut down bug.

Is it related to:
Debian/systemd?
systemd-shim?
LightDM?

Maybe antiX or Devuan can fix this if no systemd is present? I think reviewers might mention this and it should probably be mentioned in release notes as a known bug. It stays a couple of seconds on my machine.

If it can't be fixed it can't be fixed, but I hope it can be fixed in nosystemd distros.

its nothing new...same happens mx18.

[mklym]

On my CF-U1 running off the live MX-19b3_386.

Code: Select all

System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 4.19.0-6-686-pae i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: persist_static quiet splasht 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-19beta-3_386 patito feo October 3  2019 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Portable System: Matsushita product: CF-U1AQC5G2M v: 001 serial: <filter> 
           Chassis: type: 8 v: 001 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Matsushita model: CFU1-1 v: 1 serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends 
           v: 1.00L33 date: 06/15/2009 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT1 charge: 16.5 Wh condition: 16.5/20.9 Wh (79%) volts: 8.1/7.2 
           model: Panasonic CF-VZSU53 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown 
           ID-2: BAT2 charge: 20.9 Wh condition: 20.9/20.9 Wh (100%) volts: 8.2/7.2 
           model: Panasonic CF-VZSU53 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown 
CPU:       Topology: Single Core model: Intel Atom Z520 bits: 32 type: MT arch: Bonnell 
           family: 6 model-id: 1C (28) stepping: 2 microcode: 217 L2 cache: 512 KiB 
           flags: nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 5319 
           Speed: 798 MHz min/max: 800/1333 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 798 2: 798 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected 
           Type: spectre_v1 status: Not affected 
           Type: spectre_v2 status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel System Hub Graphics vendor: Matsushita US15W/US15X driver: gma500 
           v: N/A bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:8108 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1024x600~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.1 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel System Hub HD Audio vendor: Matsushita US15W/US15X/US15L/UL11L 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:811b 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-6-686-pae 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: f060 
           bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 8086:422b 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 58.46 GiB used: 6.89 GiB (11.8%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: MCCOE32GZMPP size: 29.82 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: <unknown> serial: <filter> rev: 01 scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Ultra size: 28.64 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 7.81 GiB used: 566.4 MiB (7.1%) fs: overlay 
           source: ERR-102 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/buster buster main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 179 Uptime: 58m Memory: 927.8 MiB used: 361.7 MiB (39.0%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

No sound issues. Select sound card, apply and click the 'Test sound card' button.
Have not had a chance to do much testing on the U1. Will do more tm.
All in all, MX-19b3 works well on all the different units I have, other than my X301 ThinkPad. I have not tested it yet as it is busy atm.

[Jerry3904]

Running the 32bit Live on the Thinkpad T60 (which I love). Get a very weird color problem in the panel that no one has reported yet, image attached.

Code: Select all

$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV515/M54 [Mobility Radeon X1400] driver: radeon v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
           resolution: 1400x1050~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: ATI RV515 v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6 

Am about to install, will edit this once I see it.

[mklym]

Running the 32bit Live on the Thinkpad T60 (which I love). Get a very weird color problem in the panel that no one has reported yet, image attached.

Code: Select all

$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV515/M54 [Mobility Radeon X1400] driver: radeon v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
           resolution: 1400x1050~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: ATI RV515 v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6 

Am about to install, will edit this once I see it.

I described that issue in post #62. Looks identical to what I see. Thanks for verifying that it is an issue in MX-19b3 and not my units.

[Jerry3904]

Gone on installed instance, looks normal. Here is installed situation.

Code: Select all

$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV515/M54 [Mobility Radeon X1400] driver: radeon v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
           resolution: 1400x1050~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: ATI RV515 v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6 

[dreamer]

I wonder about the sysvinit/LightDM restart/shut down bug.

Is it related to:
Debian/systemd?
systemd-shim?
LightDM?

Maybe antiX or Devuan can fix this if no systemd is present? I think reviewers might mention this and it should probably be mentioned in release notes as a known bug. It stays a couple of seconds on my machine.

If it can't be fixed it can't be fixed, but I hope it can be fixed in nosystemd distros.

its nothing new...same happens mx18.

Did you identify the update that caused it? My installs have been based on MX 17 so I have never seen it until I installed MX 19. This can be bad news for antiX and Devuan too. I uninstalled Plymouth in MX 19 but it didn't help.

[dolphin_oracle]

I wonder about the sysvinit/LightDM restart/shut down bug.

Is it related to:
Debian/systemd?
systemd-shim?
LightDM?

Maybe antiX or Devuan can fix this if no systemd is present? I think reviewers might mention this and it should probably be mentioned in release notes as a known bug. It stays a couple of seconds on my machine.

If it can't be fixed it can't be fixed, but I hope it can be fixed in nosystemd distros.

its nothing new...same happens mx18.

Did you identify the update that caused it? My installs have been based on MX 17 so I have never seen it until I installed MX 19. This can be bad news for antiX and Devuan too. I uninstalled Plymouth in MX 19 but it didn't help.

probably consolekit, which is no longer installable at the same time as systemd and/or policykit. but that's a guess.

antix doesn't use lightdm.

[malspa]

I looked at MX-19 beta 3 in live sessions from a flash drive, on two different computers. Didn't do much tweaking; mostly just exploring. No problems to report. Looks like this is gonna be another nice MX release!

[mmikeinsantarosa]

The new icons in MX tools look great; nice and sharp and really sweet color combinations.

[Eadwine Rose]

its nothing new...same happens mx18.

Did you identify the update that caused it? My installs have been based on MX 17 so I have never seen it until I installed MX 19. This can be bad news for antiX and Devuan too. I uninstalled Plymouth in MX 19 but it didn't help.

probably consolekit, which is no longer installable at the same time as systemd and/or policykit. but that's a guess.

antix doesn't use lightdm.

Is this the reappearance of the login screen before system shutdown/reboot?

If so, it doesn't happen to me in 18.3, fully updated install.

If you mean the very brief appearance of a grey screen, yeah that does happen, but it's very short (much shorter than that login screen), like half a second or so.