MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

[winemaker]

just s that news about half hour ago.

https://news.softpedia.com/news/debian- ... 7568.shtml

[asqwerth]

just s that news about half hour ago.

https://news.softpedia.com/news/debian- ... 7568.shtml

Please keep this thread On Topic to giving beta 2.1 feedback.

[Croton]

Some tiny simple newbie feedback... Just booted the live usb version of 19 beta 2.1:

- Had problems finding the language settings - of course it is under "system locale", but I and I guess a lot of people would search for "language" in the whisker menu
- No "screen" is set in "Display" - this displayed the login prompt on a small secondary monitor for me, which is rotated - just an idea, but maybe automatically set the highest resolution screen as main
- On a secondary screen the wallpaper directory is different ("xfce") as on the main screen ("backgrounds") - and there are different background pictures included. Also I don't find the option to stretch one background picture over all screens
- The manual included says MX-17.1 on the title
- The pre-installed conky is out of the screen area on a WQHD display
- After "turning off" the secondary screen in "Display" and selecting "Cancel Configuration", the secondary screen isn't rotated any more, displayed "behind" the main screen (so partly mirroring it) and can't be moved any more in the "Display" tool <-- This is really annoying, if I "cancel" a new display setting it should return exactly to the state it was before

So I will now boot again to my trusty 18.3 and hopefully can use both screens again :-) Otherwise keep up the good work, looks good already and feels even from USB more snappy as my "daily driver" MX 18.3

[Eadwine Rose]

- No "screen" is set in "Display" - this displayed the login prompt on a small secondary monitor for me, which is rotated - just an idea, but maybe automatically set the highest resolution screen as main

Same here, both screens have the same resolution. Did you find it changed when you installed?

- On a secondary screen the wallpaper directory is different ("xfce") as on the main screen ("backgrounds") - and there are different background pictures included. Also I don't find the option to stretch one background picture over all screens

Same here, thanks for reporting. :)

[xtrail]

this is too confusing for me.. maybe its better i go back to another linux os that is simpler without all these new commands... thankyou for your help :)

You don't need to do anything with sysvinit to use MX Linux. If you have specific questions on sysvinit, please start a new thread, this is the MX-19 Beta thread.

im sorry im just new to linux overal, so i follow some tutorials on line about tweaking linux and making it better, but none of the commands work in Mx, but it worked in Manjaro, so i don't know what im doing wrong. Thanks. I just need to learn how to use linux, and none of the commands i fuond online seems to work in Mx, so i don't konw what to do...

[xtrail]

@xtrail
I am confused as to why systemd is important to you?
Are you a sysadmin?

To use sysvinit you don't have to do anything but boot the default kernel, start up the apps you wish to use, and do your thing.

im sorry im just new to linux overal, so i follow some tutorials on line about tweaking linux and making it better, but none of the commands work in Mx, but it worked in Manjaro, so i don't know what im doing wrong. Thanks. I just need to learn how to use linux, and none of the commands i fuond online seems to work in Mx, so i don't konw what to do...

[chrispop99]

- On a secondary screen the wallpaper directory is different ("xfce") as on the main screen ("backgrounds") - and there are different background pictures included. Also I don't find the option to stretch one background picture over all screens

Xfce has always been like that; I'm not sure it can be fixed by MX, although it would be nice if it could.

Chris

[Eadwine Rose]

im sorry im just new to linux overal, so i follow some tutorials on line about tweaking linux and making it better, but none of the commands work in Mx, but it worked in Manjaro, so i don't know what im doing wrong. Thanks. I just need to learn how to use linux, and none of the commands i fuond online seems to work in Mx, so i don't konw what to do...

Please start a new topic with your questions. Thanks :)

[asqwerth]

@xtrail
I am confused as to why systemd is important to you?
Are you a sysadmin?

To use sysvinit you don't have to do anything but boot the default kernel, start up the apps you wish to use, and do your thing.

im sorry im just new to linux overal, so i follow some tutorials on line about tweaking linux and making it better, but none of the commands work in Mx, but it worked in Manjaro, so i don't know what im doing wrong. Thanks. I just need to learn how to use linux, and none of the commands i fuond online seems to work in Mx, so i don't konw what to do...

As you are a newcomer to Linux, I suggest:

1. That you do NOT start your introduction to Linux by running a Beta release that is still in testing. This is supposed to be a feedback thread to report bugs of Beta 2.1, but it is starting to become a help thread which is not ideal, because it might become unclear whether you are having trouble because you did something wrong (or did not do something you should have) or because the beta had a bug you stumbled upon.

2. that you install FRESH the MX18.3 release, and then if you have problems, start fresh threads for each problem.

3. Meanwhile, just note that if you just booted into MX (whether 18 or 19) without doing anything special or choosing any other boot menu entry except the first one in the menu, you will have booted into sysvinit. You don't need to do anything to be booted in sysvinit.

4. Whether or not you continue in MX19 beta 2.1 or install MX18.3, your first stop for information should be the MX Manual, not just visiting random webpages all over the internet and just inputting commands you don't understand that may apply to other distros only.

Manjaro boots into systemd by default, unlike MX, so "systemctl" commands work for Manjaro.
systemctl is the command for systemd.

For MX, it boots into sysvinit by default, so systemctl commands won't work. If you want to know the equivalent command(s) in sysvinit, you must ASK in a separate thread, not this one, and set out what you were trying to do/achieve, so people can help you achieve the same result. Give the weblink to the so-called instructions you were trying to follow.

[Croton]

Croton wrote:Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:34 am
- On a secondary screen the wallpaper directory is different ("xfce") as on the main screen ("backgrounds") - and there are different background pictures included. Also I don't find the option to stretch one background picture over all screens
-- Xfce has always been like that; I'm not sure it can be fixed by MX, although it would be nice if it could.

Ok, I may not remember if I had set up the directories manually in 18.3 (could very well be the case) - However this is just a minor annoyance, for which I hadn't normally taken the time to write a forum post A fix would be of course cool, but that is not a gamechanger for me...

Whereas the option "Bildschirmfüllend" (sorry don't know the english option name for stretching one picture over all screens), is definitely in 18.3 and seems to be missing in the beta. Which of course could be a regression in the new XFCE version, but I'm just a simple user who noted that one of the first options usually set by me on any system is missing