MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#501 Post by xtrail »

xtrail wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:02 am Also, Hello there! i've just newly installed mx linux 19 beta, i have an amd laptop with vega 10 graphics, is there an automatic support for this graphics card? is there anything i have to do to get it working propertly?
thankyou so much!!
is amd drivers already baked into the OS? thanks :)

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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#502 Post by dolphin_oracle »

Richard wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:03 am MX uses SysVinit by default.
It uses systemd-shim for app compatibility.

Systemd, per se, Is not installed.
MOSTLY correct. systemd is very much installed, its just not used as the init system by default.
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
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FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.

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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#503 Post by dolphin_oracle »

xtrail wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:42 am
xtrail wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:02 am Also, Hello there! i've just newly installed mx linux 19 beta, i have an amd laptop with vega 10 graphics, is there an automatic support for this graphics card? is there anything i have to do to get it working propertly?
thankyou so much!!
is amd drivers already baked into the OS? thanks :)
amd provides the amdgpu open source graphics driver. this is included in the kernel by default these days. Some graphics cards may require a later version kernel than we ship by default.
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 4 - MX-23
FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.

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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#504 Post by xtrail »

Richard wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:03 am MX uses SysVinit by default.
It uses systemd-shim for app compatibility.

Systemd, per se, Is not installed.
Thankyou Richard, so any examples of how i would use SysVinit? how to use it? thanks

xtrail

Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#505 Post by xtrail »

dolphin_oracle wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:47 am
xtrail wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:42 am
xtrail wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:02 am Also, Hello there! i've just newly installed mx linux 19 beta, i have an amd laptop with vega 10 graphics, is there an automatic support for this graphics card? is there anything i have to do to get it working propertly?
thankyou so much!!
is amd drivers already baked into the OS? thanks :)
amd provides the amdgpu open source graphics driver. this is included in the kernel by default these days. Some graphics cards may require a later version kernel than we ship by default.
Awesome thankyou!!

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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#506 Post by CookDaddy »

dolphin_oracle wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:43 am do other ports not work, or just the front ones? and If I understand correctly, the front ports work when running the live-usb? Do the rear ones still work when running the live-usb?
Thank you for your response.
The front ports work with live-usb, but not with the installed beta.
I have the mouse and keyboard plugged into the rear ports; they continue to work with the installed beta, as well as the live-usb.

Full disclosure, I have the MX19-beta2.1 64-bit running superbly on my Dell laptop. As noted in the QSI of my previous posting, the MX19 on the IBM desktop is the 32-bit version.
My QSI for the laptop:

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System:
  Host: CookDaddy-laptop Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 
  compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 
  info: xfce4-panel wm: Compiz 0.8.16.1 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
  Distro: MX-19beta-1_x64 patito feo August 25  2019 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:
  Type: Portable System: Dell product: Inspiron 3542 v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Chassis: type: 8 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Dell model: 06TD16 v: A04 serial: <filter> UEFI: Dell v: A04 
  date: 08/05/2014 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 36.0 Wh condition: 36.0/47.5 Wh (76%) volts: 12.3/10.8 
  model: LGC-LGC3.0 DELL 49VTP type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium 3558U bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Haswell family: 6 model-id: 45 (69) stepping: 1 microcode: 25 
  L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 6784 
  Speed: 799 MHz min/max: 800/1700 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 998 2: 998 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: l1tf 
  mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled 
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, 
  IBRS_FW, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0a06 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  compositor: compiz v: 0.8.16.1 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 
  compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 chip ID: 8086:0a0c 
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:9c20 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-5-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter 
  vendor: Dell driver: ath9k v: kernel port: f040 bus ID: 06:00.0 
  chip ID: 168c:0036 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Dell RTL810xE driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 07:00.0 
  chip ID: 10ec:8136 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-3: Qualcomm Atheros type: USB driver: btusb bus ID: 1-1.6:6 
  chip ID: 0cf3:0036 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 75.08 GiB (16.1%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000LPVX-75V0TT0 
  size: 465.76 GiB block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B 
  speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter> rev: 1A01 scheme: GPT 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: 29.30 GiB size: 28.71 GiB (98.00%) 
  used: 7.30 GiB (25.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
  ID-2: /home raw size: 428.36 GiB size: 420.64 GiB (98.20%) 
  used: 67.78 GiB (16.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 
  ID-3: swap-1 size: 7.81 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap 
  swappiness: 5 (default 60) cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0 C mobo: 45.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
Repos:
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
  1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/buster buster main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:
  Processes: 171 Uptime: 1h 15m Memory: 3.76 GiB used: 1.32 GiB (35.0%) 
  Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 
  Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.33 

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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#507 Post by asqwerth »

xtrail wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:00 am Hello dear folks!!
Hello there :) Please help,
I'm new to mx linux and an beginner in linux. I just downloaded and installed mx linux 19 beta, and now when i run systemctl, it gives me this same error for almost everything, how do i fix it please?
it says "system has not been booted with systemd as init system (PID 1). Can't operate. Failed to connect to bus: Host is down." Any idea how to fix this? thankyou for your help
I think you should clarify what full command you were trying to run. I suspect from your later post that you were merely trying to initiate or set up some fstrim commands and processes, rather than that you want to run in systemd per se. Pls clarify.

If you just followed commands on the web for fstrim and they assumed you were using systemd, you would likely have got those error messages.

But now that you know fstrim is set up already by default in mx, do you actually still need those fstrim commands you wanted to run?
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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#508 Post by Richard »

@Dokphin_Oracle,
Thanks for the clarification.
I suppose I thought since I've never run it that it wasn't there. Must have been dreaming because it must be installed since it is in the grub menu.
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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#509 Post by dolphin_oracle »

Richard wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:53 pm @Dokphin_Oracle,
Thanks for the clarification.
I suppose I thought since I've never run it that it wasn't there. Must have been dreaming because it must be installed since it is in the grub menu.
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No worries Richard. We do try to go out of our way to make systemd not necessary.
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 4 - MX-23
FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.

xtrail

Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#510 Post by xtrail »

asqwerth wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:28 pm
xtrail wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:00 am Hello dear folks!!
Hello there :) Please help,
I'm new to mx linux and an beginner in linux. I just downloaded and installed mx linux 19 beta, and now when i run systemctl, it gives me this same error for almost everything, how do i fix it please?
it says "system has not been booted with systemd as init system (PID 1). Can't operate. Failed to connect to bus: Host is down." Any idea how to fix this? thankyou for your help
I think you should clarify what full command you were trying to run. I suspect from your later post that you were merely trying to initiate or set up some fstrim commands and processes, rather than that you want to run in systemd per se. Pls clarify.

If you just followed commands on the web for fstrim and they assumed you were using systemd, you would likely have got those error messages.

But now that you know fstrim is set up already by default in mx, do you actually still need those fstrim commands you wanted to run?
hello, i'm just an beginner in Linux, so does this mean everytime i see and systemd that i replace it with something else? just what do i do? i don't even know what to do? if i see someone giving an tutotial on linux but its in in 'Systemctl" or "systemd", then what do i do? Thankyou

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