MX-19 and systemd

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Re: MX-19 and systemd

#11 Post by asqwerth »

SysV is default.
https://mxlinux.org/blog/debian-stable-is-now-buster/

I don't think XFCE 4.14 will be on Wayland.

And XFCE is MX's default DE.
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Re: MX-19 and systemd

#12 Post by palimmo »

asqwerth wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:58 am SysV is default.
How to change it?
Thanks!
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Re: MX-19 and systemd

#13 Post by JayM »

palimmo wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:26 am
asqwerth wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:58 am SysV is default.
How to change it?
Thanks!
alt+F1 then control+f, type "systemd" and press enter.
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/systemd/.
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Re: MX-19 and systemd

#14 Post by baldyeti »

Excellent news. Big thanks to the shim maintainer.
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Re: MX-19 and systemd

#15 Post by Eadwine Rose »

The answer is in the comments on that blog :)
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Re: MX-19 and systemd

#16 Post by xali »

so if you want to install a snap for some reason but still want to work with sysv, which is the appropriate approach?
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Re: MX-19 and systemd

#17 Post by JayM »

xali wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:59 am so if you want to install a snap for some reason but still want to work with sysv, which is the appropriate approach?
Request that the devs install snap plus its repositories or store or whatever it's called in MXPI as they did for flatpaks. Otherwise, install it yourself and risk breaking your system. Or, if whatever app that you want in snaps isn't available in the MX repos, request that it be added.
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Re: MX-19 and systemd

#18 Post by dolphin_oracle »

palimmo wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:39 am By default installation, will be systemd or sysv active? and how to change it?

Furthermore, what about Wayland?

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Sysvinit by default. There will be a systemd grub entry just like in mx 18.

Xfce still uses X, so that's what we are shipping.
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Re: MX-19 and systemd

#19 Post by asqwerth »

JayM wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:05 am
xali wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:59 am so if you want to install a snap for some reason but still want to work with sysv, which is the appropriate approach?
Request that the devs install snap plus its repositories or store or whatever it's called in MXPI as they did for flatpaks. Otherwise, install it yourself and risk breaking your system. Or, if whatever app that you want in snaps isn't available in the MX repos, request that it be added.
Since snaps only works with systemd which is not officially supported by mx (we merely give the opportunity for both sysv and systemd to co-exist on the same installation of mx), I highly doubt you'll find snaps incorporated in to mxpi.

Position on systemd in general: go search the official website, it's there somewhere.
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Re: MX-19 and systemd

#20 Post by anticapitalista »

manyroads wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:43 pm
However, I believe the MX position as stated in the posts today by D_O, which I assume represent both MX & antiX, effectively place MX & antiX in a unique position within the Linux-world. ...
Not quite.
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