MX-18 Feedback

[tascoast]

I reinstalled MX-18 64 today because I was unsure on a couple of issues including finding a Live_usb_storage folder in home the first time (possibly I modified and tried to save a lot of live changes).

I obtained the *.iso via the torrent v direct download as previously.

Most of all, and I still have this issue, being that I cannot disable the boot splash via Boot Options.

However, this time I noticed that there is no Screensaver setting icon in Settings Manager. It should be there right? It always was.

[dphn]

I now have 7 MX18 machines... go me, yay me... Anyone got an old machine they want updated?

cool.
The best intention for 2019 is to install MX-18 18 times, or 19 times...

[richb]

I reinstalled MX-18 64 today because I was unsure on a couple of issues including finding a Live_usb_storage folder in home the first time (possibly I modified and tried to save a lot of live changes).

I obtained the *.iso via the torrent v direct download as previously.

Most of all, and I still have this issue, being that I cannot disable the boot splash via Boot Options.

However, this time I noticed that there is no Screensaver setting icon in Settings Manager. It should be there right? It always was.

The screensaver has been removed as a default replaced by lightlocker which locks the screen to lightdm. Screesaver is available in MX Package Manager Popular Apps.

[Eadwine Rose]

The situation of the high RAM consumption in live cd in mx 18, apparently, is due to the kernel.
The mx 17 that does not give problems and when updating the kernel to 4.19.10-antix1-amd-smp I had the same problems.
Can I put a kernel in mx 18 as under the snapshot mx17 on October 20? Thanks

I would suggest opening a separate topic on this as it might get missed in this thread.

[tascoast]

The screensaver has been removed as a default replaced by lightlocker which locks the screen to lightdm. Screesaver is available in MX Package Manager Popular Apps.

Thanks muchly. I was wondering if I was suffering from too much seasonal excess, without indulging in any actual excess.

[beardedgeek72]

First debian-based install since 2006.
Only used it for a few hours so far and basically have a very mixed bag:

Here are my issues and nitpicks, in no specific order:

[*]The default theme is... not as good as it looks in screenshots. Half of it looks great, half of it looks like it's a custom theme from Windows XP.
[*]Found out after half an hour when I tried to set my panel as transparent that no compositor was running by default, but that Compton is preinstalled (but again, no compositor was started by default)
[*]The image is bloated beyond belief. A lot of things are just things not needed, I spent an hour going through and uninstalling about a third of everything, but a few things are also confusing: Why are there four package managers preinstalled?
[*]Chromium bug: Min and Max buttons disappear when maximized. I have not tried Chrome, don't want to. Also default font size is HUGE for some reason. Not the case in Manjaro Xfce or Windows 10.
[*]Speaking of package managers... I had a fun time trying to install Spyder3. The three first times I looked for it, the package manager(s) found it but refused to install due to some issue where it thought the package was empty, basically. Same with Youtube-dl. Then suddenly it worked. Slow servers? Or something else?
[*]Speaking of more package management: When I was busy uninstalling and installing stuff to my liking, I saw 5 packages constantly sitting on the "held back" list. Then suddenly the update notified popped up and told me those five were ready to be updated? Is this normal behavior in Debian? Just wondering.

This is what i can come up with for now. As I said this is my first debian-based distro since 2006.
In case anyone wonders, I got into Linux late 2005, and ran the following back then: OpenSuse, Ubuntu (first "Big" release, when Ubuntu sort of exploded and was in all the papers), Debian Stable, Debian Testing, Mint. Then I got a new computer and I never got around to fiddle with the multiboot.
Started with Linux again this may, and have exclusively run Arch-based distros this time: Antergos, pure Arch, SwagArch, Manjaro. Wanted to broaden my skills a bit so right now installing alongside Manjaro: This, Siduction Xfce, and OpenSuse Plasma.

Hi; welcome to the forum.

You will never get consensus on theming, or any other graphics issues! However, alternative themes are included, many more are available online, and customising themes isn't too hard.
MX Linux is intended to be as light as possible, and usable on quite old hardware. Compositing is off by default to help with that. Mention is made in the manual.
The choice of installed software is made by the developers to give a balance, and options, to suit as many users as possible. Why does it matter how large the image is? You can either ignore things you don't want, hide them from the menu, or as you have done uninstall them. HDD space is not really an issue in today's world.
I'm not a Chromium user, and it's not pre-installed, so can't comment on that I'm afraid. There have been no other reports yet, so something to watch for perhaps.
Your issues with package management were most probably due to mirrors updating. It takes a while for everything to sync.

Chris

Thanks for taking the time. I am gearing this to be my fallback / "serious work" distro since well... I will be running one bleeding edge (Siduction unstable), one "as bleeding edge as Manjaro allows me to" (Manjaro Unstable, which basically is Arch Stable) and one pretty damn stable but rolling (SuSe Tumbleweed).
I know all about the theming. I will go into that eventually. Today is game day (which for me means sitting playing CRPGs all day ).
As for the size of the image: I guess it's just my old Window roots, but my first instinct installing any OS or DE is to look for, and uninstall anything "bloatware-ish".

[asqwerth]

I've been running manjaro stable for close to 5 years now in addition to mx, I've not found Manjaro's standard iso releases to be much less full-featured than mx. In other words, if mx is bloated, so is manjaro unless you install via Architect. Manjaro 18 had about 32 wallpapers, I believe . MX 18 has 26 but the 12 mx17 wallpapers were retained on the iso (kind of inadvertently).

The use case for standard manjaro release and mx is fairly similar, but manjaro is also a arch based rolling distro so they do also target the more techy minimalist type user with architect and unstable branch repo, etc. That is not mx's target group at all.

If you are the "everything I don't need is bloat, even if other people find it useful" type of user, fair enough, you'll probably find both distros' normal isos bloated.

Also, neither mx nor manjaro give me any issues. I did install mx18 RC on real metal to test it out. No issues.

It might be good therefore to see the repos you have enabled, your hardware, and have an idea of what you removed, just in case you removed something key. With more info, the reasons behind your issues might reveal themselves.

About theming: I've never found Manjaro's default panel icons (esp power manager! ) nice either. But it runs well for me (most important) and I don't have a problem changing icon sets. Ultimately aesthetics is subjective.

Anyway, welcome.

[asqwerth]

Also, what are the 4 package managers?

Only 2 graphical ones, right?

Synaptic is the venerable old gui package manager of Debian based distros. MX packageinstaller (mxpi) is mx's and does more than synaptic, including its Popular apps functionality and the ability to manage Flatpaks in a graphical interface. Unlike KDE's Discover and Gnome's Software, Xfce does not have a graphical package manager nor one that handles Flatpaks.

Mxpi doesn't just do what synaptic does.

[Gerson]

Today I received an update on MX 18 x64 and after that, it started to ask me to unlock the Password Deposit. Why is that happening lately with each new package especially in MX Package Installer? I have a start without a password.

[Jerry3904]

Did you log out and back in?