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Hierax_ca
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Re: MX-18 Feedback

#51 Post by Hierax_ca »

Thinkpad 600x 2646-8EU (2000)

This really pushes the limits of how old of a computer MX-18 can run on, but MX pulls it off!

Display Color issue is now fixed out-of-the-box -- THANK YOU!

but Audio Sound issues persist and still require a manual solution:
- download latest old firmware: ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/firmware ... 29.tar.bz2 (2015-02-20)
- right click in Thunar extract here
- copy cs46xx folder
- open Root Thunar
- paste to /lib/firmware/
- open terminal "sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx"
- MX select sounds, chose it and apply.

Anyway, MX-18 is great (e.g., with the very up-to-date non-sse Debian Kernel or the AntiX 486 LTS Kernels, and a recent Palemoon non-sse2 browser) really old laptops like this are still useful ~19 years later!

$ inxi -Fxrz

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System:
  Host: Thinkpad-600x-Linux-MX18 Kernel: 4.19.10-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 
  compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 
  Distro: MX-18_386 Continuum Dec 20  2018 base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: IBM product: 26468EU v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: IBM model: 26468EU serial: <filter> BIOS: IBM v: ITET55WW 
  date: 11/30/1999 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 44.4 Wh condition: 45.4/45.4 Wh (100%) 
  model: IBM Corporation ThinkPad Battery status: Unknown 
CPU:
  Topology: Single Core model: Pentium III (Coppermine) bits: 32 type: MCP 
  arch: P6 III Coppermine rev: 6 L2 cache: 256 KiB 
  flags: pae sse bogomips: 1694 
  Speed: 847 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 847 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Neomagic NM2360 [MagicMedia 256ZX] driver: N/A bus ID: 01:00.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: neomagic 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1024x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.2.6 
  direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24/30 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio 
  Accelerator] 
  driver: snd_cs46xx v: kernel bus ID: 00:06.0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.10-antix.1-486-smp 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA type: network bridge driver: N/A 
  port: 4400 bus ID: 00:07.0 
  Device-2: Intel 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI type: network bridge driver: N/A 
  port: 4000 bus ID: 00:07.3 
  Device-3: D-Link System DFE-690TXD CardBus PC Card driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 
  port: 1800 bus ID: 06:00.0 
  IF: eth0 state: unknown speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB used: 8.21 GiB (6.9%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Plextor model: PX-128M6M size: 119.24 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 15.62 GiB used: 8.07 GiB (51.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
  ID-2: /home size: 100.57 GiB used: 133.6 MiB (0.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
  ID-3: swap-1 size: 576.0 MiB used: 768 KiB (0.1%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:
  Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured? 
Repos:
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
  1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch stretch main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:
  Processes: 148 Uptime: 2m Memory: 556.7 MiB used: 227.5 MiB (40.9%) 
  Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 
  inxi: 3.0.25 
MX-17.1: Thinkpad x60t, x61t, x200t, x220t.
MX-18 (32-bit) Thinkpads: 600x*, A31p, T43p, T60p;
MX-18 (64-bit): MacBook13(5,1), Thinkpad x61s, T61pW, T601pF, x200, x301*, T500, W500, W700, W700ds, W701, W701ds*, x220, W520.

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Re: MX-18 Feedback state folder

#52 Post by CaputAlista »

if i erase folder in linux and reboot the problem persist , if i erase folder state in win10 and boot the problem solved . When appear the problem when remaster ( state .old state new) then i erase folder in win 10. ¿??

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Re: MX-18 Feedback

#53 Post by Gordon Cooper »

Stevo wrote: Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:18 pm
Gordon Cooper wrote: Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:58 pm Herewith the countries list for the first 18 hours of torrent uploads from this site. This includes both 386 and x64 versions.

Algeria Argentina Australia Austria Belarus Bosnia Brazil Canada Chile China
Colombo Croatia Czech_Republic Denmark Egypt Finland France Germany Greece
Hungary India Kazahkstan Latvia Mexico Norway Pakistan Poland Portugal Russian_Federation
Serbia Singapore Slovenia Spain Turkey U.K. U.S.A. Venezuela
Do you remember where the seeders for archive.org were located, or could you try adding one of theirs? I think their data centers in the San Francisco area are doing the seeding, but torrents are blocked where I'm at right now. :frown:
I don't have any info about where the seeders are.
Backup: Dell9010, MX-19_B2, Win7, 120 SSD, WD 232GIB HD, 4GB RAM
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Re: MX-18 Feedback

#54 Post by Paul.. »

Stevo wrote: Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:55 pm Archive.org uploads are done. Now with the slideshow yoinked from mxlinux.org!
Just tried the 64bit...torrent delivered the .iso and other stuff in the folder, 1.45GB in under a minute. NICE!!

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Re: MX-18 Feedback

#55 Post by entropyfoe »

I just took 8 synaptic updates to my MX-18RC1, and now voila, with no further mussing about...

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System:    Host: Ryzen Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 
           Distro: MX-18_x64 Continuum December 17  2018 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME X370-PRO v: Rev X.0x serial: <root required> 
           UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: 4024 date: 09/07/2018 
CPU:       Topology: 6-Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
I now have final, no future stigma of RC. No re-tweaking. is that correct?

All thing are working well. Totally stable , no crash in over 10 days of beta and rc1.
Running a kernel less than 2 months old, a Distro dated three days ago, and a BIOS-- the latest, 4 months old.

Wow, the developer team really cranked out a smooth machine.
Thanks. I think the release information should mention the LTS nature of the kernel, making this stable Debian install viable for years to come, for those that do not like to upgrade.

Now after a few days, I will do a classic 3 partition install for the production system. And this is fourth partition will be a backup or available for experimentation.
MX 23.6 on Asus PRIME B650
AMD Ryzen 9700X (16 threads @ 3.8 GHz)
64 Gig DDR4 6400 (Crucial)
Nvidia GeForce GT 710
Samsung 970 NVMe nvme0n1 P1-3=MX-23.5, P4=testing
Samsung 980 NVMe =2TB Data, plus 2TB WD =backups
on-board ethernet & sound

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Re: MX-18 Feedback

#56 Post by Stevo »

entropyfoe wrote: Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:23 pm I just took 8 synaptic updates to my MX-18RC1, and now voila, with no further mussing about...

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System:    Host: Ryzen Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 
           Distro: MX-18_x64 Continuum December 17  2018 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME X370-PRO v: Rev X.0x serial: <root required> 
           UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: 4024 date: 09/07/2018 
CPU:       Topology: 6-Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
I now have final, no future stigma of RC. No re-tweaking. is that correct?

All thing are working well. Totally stable , no crash in over 10 days of beta and rc1.
Running a kernel less than 2 months old, a Distro dated three days ago, and a BIOS-- the latest, 4 months old.

Wow, the developer team really cranked out a smooth machine.
Thanks. I think the release information should mention the LTS nature of the kernel, making this stable Debian install viable for years to come, for those that do not like to upgrade.

Now after a few days, I will do a classic 3 partition install for the production system. And this is fourth partition will be a backup or available for experimentation.
Well, we are hoping that Debian decides on 4.19 for Buster so we can keep up with their updates. The last time I looked, 4.19 was still in Experimental.

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Re: MX-18 Feedback

#57 Post by Stevo »

Just upgraded 17.1 to 18 on the Skylake Acer E5 Optimus laptop. Nvidia-driver was removed, but I reinstalled it after a reboot to 4.19 kernel. However, Bumblebee GPU switching was still broken as in this bug report:
The nvidia installer seems to do its job, but when I reboot and try to run a command on primusrun or optirun I get the following error:

/usr/bin/primusrun: line 41: warning: command substitution: ignored null byte in input
primus: fatal: failed to load any of the libraries: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/nvidia/libGL.so.1:/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/nvidia/libGL.so.1:/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/nvidia/libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/nvidia/libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
But after I installed virtualgl and virtualgl-libs:i386 on 64-bit, optirun worked immediately, even in Wine, where I had to run "optirun -b primus" before. Primusrun seems to be dead for Bumblebee, though. D_O's going to change the Nvidia-installer to add those packages, but the manual needs some changing.

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Re: MX-18 Feedback

#58 Post by sunrat »

Stevo wrote: Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:30 pmThe last time I looked, 4.19 was still in Experimental.
In Sid now.
https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-i ... .0-1-amd64

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Re: MX-18 Feedback

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Paul.. wrote: Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:50 pm
Stevo wrote: Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:55 pm Archive.org uploads are done. Now with the slideshow yoinked from mxlinux.org!
Just tried the 64bit...torrent delivered the .iso and other stuff in the folder, 1.45GB in under a minute. NICE!!
Well, that's great! Where are you in relation to San Francisco?

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Re: MX-18 Feedback

#60 Post by Gordon Cooper »

@ entropyfoe. Like your comment of no re-tweaking. After years of trying to make things look better, I have given up tweaks and use the OS just as it arrives. The left-hand side panel, basic wallpaper and screen layout are fully acceptable as is. With no cosmetic changes to make, the system is put to use without delay. Yes,there are a few additions, qBittorrrent and choice of Conky immediately, a video editor and Audacity, later when they are needed.
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Backup: Dell9010, MX-19_B2, Win7, 120 SSD, WD 232GIB HD, 4GB RAM
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