MX-18 RC1 Feedback

[fehlix]

Not sure what this means so do not blindly change. In Google Chrome, "chrome://flags/", invoked by typing in address bar, There is this entry:

Migrate passwords to "Login Data"
Performs a one-off irreversible migration of passwords from the gnome-keyring or kwallet into the profile directory. – Linux

The options are default, enable, disable with default as installed choice.

good found.
It means for any saved password within Chrome to transfer those credentials into the "old" "plaintext-alike" password-store format within the profile folder of chrome/ium. Highly not recommended as plaintext-alike insecure migration.

[j2mcgreg]

In the next iteration of MX 18, could ecryptfs-utils be linked to the initial log on? That way the password(s) would still be encrypted be default but the users would not be hassled by a secondary prompt.

[dphn]

Haven't seen it yet. In MX 17 I've missed thunar-media-tags-plugin. Is this included in MX 18?

[richb]

Not sure what this means so do not blindly change. In Google Chrome, "chrome://flags/", invoked by typing in address bar, There is this entry:

Migrate passwords to "Login Data"
Performs a one-off irreversible migration of passwords from the gnome-keyring or kwallet into the profile directory. – Linux

The options are default, enable, disable with default as installed choice.

good found.
It means for any saved password within Chrome to transfer those credentials into the "old" "plaintext-alike" password-store format within the profile folder of chrome/ium. Highly not recommended as plaintext-alike insecure migration.

Thanks for the explanation. Upon reading it again with your clarification, it made perfect sense to me. And I agree, I would not recommend it as it would forego the extra security.
By the way, there are many tweaks in about:config. For example I used one to increase the size of the extension icon display. But use with caution as they could really muck up the browser.

[arjaybe]

Regarding the installer's new interface for the root/home/swap/boot partition settings, I suggest that the "none" option in the swap dropdown menu be changed to "none or use existing".

As I recall, this was the original description in the previous interface, so that users understood that they could choose this "none" option if they already had a swap partition created and formatted on the system, perhaps by another distro.

Otherwise, a user who is not so familiar might either backtrack to Gparted to create a completely new swap partition or they might click on an existing swap partition thinking to reuse it.

But doing the latter step will reformat the swap partition, changing its UUID. If the other distro is a systemd distro, this will cause that distro to go into a 90 sec check mode because it can't find the swap partition under the old UUID.

Since I always select an existing swap partition when installing an OS, I guess I've just been lucky that I don't use systemd. Is it necessary to format it?

[dolphin_oracle]

Regarding the installer's new interface for the root/home/swap/boot partition settings, I suggest that the "none" option in the swap dropdown menu be changed to "none or use existing".

As I recall, this was the original description in the previous interface, so that users understood that they could choose this "none" option if they already had a swap partition created and formatted on the system, perhaps by another distro.

Otherwise, a user who is not so familiar might either backtrack to Gparted to create a completely new swap partition or they might click on an existing swap partition thinking to reuse it.

But doing the latter step will reformat the swap partition, changing its UUID. If the other distro is a systemd distro, this will cause that distro to go into a 90 sec check mode because it can't find the swap partition under the old UUID.

actually, this is a delibrate change. "none" means none.

if you choose a partition that is already formatted swap, it will not be reformated unless you are also using encryption.

[skidoo]

Tonight I cannot remember howto view/edit the Xfce global keybinds.
No luck from searching whiskerMenu: "keyb", "shortc", "hotk"... and didn't find it in "MX Tools" nor "Xfce Settings"

Do you mean.. open the menu, in the search field on top enter keyboard, click that, then go to the tab application shortcuts?

global, as in, Alt+F1 launches MX User Manual viewer, Alt+F4 kills the application in the currently focused window (?), Alt+F6 does "something" (i don't know what -- accessibility related? Causes cursor to change to a "hand")...

I jogged my memory by performing a websearch, but the stumble led me to mention it as a usability issue.
A novice may not not easily find -----v

[Jerry3904]

No fair using websearches!

;-)

[fehlix]

Tonight I cannot remember howto view/edit the Xfce global keybinds.

What? You can't remember this?

Code: Select all

 xfconf-query -c xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts -l -v

Code: Select all

xfconf-query -c xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts -l -v
/commands/custom/<Alt>F1                   mx-manual
/commands/custom/<Alt>F2                   xfce4-appfinder --collapsed
/commands/custom/<Alt>F3                   xfce4-appfinder
/commands/custom/Menu                      xfce4-popup-whiskermenu
/commands/custom/override                  true
/commands/custom/<Primary><Alt>Delete      xflock4
/commands/custom/<Primary><Alt>Escape      xkill
/commands/custom/<Primary>Escape           xfdesktop --menu
/commands/custom/Print                     xfce4-screenshooter
/commands/custom/<Shift>F4                 xfce4-terminal --hide-menubar --hide-borders --drop-down
/commands/custom/<Shift>Scroll_Lock        sh -c 'xfdesktop --reload; xfce4-panel --restart'
/commands/custom/<Super>p                  xfce4-display-settings --minimal
/commands/custom/XF86Display               xfce4-display-settings --minimal
/commands/custom/XF86Mail                  exo-open --launch MailReader
/commands/custom/XF86WWW                   exo-open --launch WebBrowser
/commands/default/<Alt>F1                  xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu
/commands/default/<Alt>F2                  xfce4-appfinder --collapsed
/commands/default/<Alt>F2/startup-notify   true
/commands/default/<Alt>F3                  xfce4-appfinder
/commands/default/<Alt>F3/startup-notify   true
/commands/default/<Primary><Alt>Delete     xflock4
/commands/default/<Primary><Alt>l          xflock4
/commands/default/<Primary>Escape          xfdesktop --menu
/commands/default/<Super>p                 xfce4-display-settings --minimal
/commands/default/XF86Display              xfce4-display-settings --minimal
/commands/default/XF86Mail                 exo-open --launch MailReader
/commands/default/XF86WWW                  exo-open --launch WebBrowser
/providers                                 <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>End            move_window_next_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>Home           move_window_prev_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_1           move_window_workspace_1_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_2           move_window_workspace_2_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_3           move_window_workspace_3_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_4           move_window_workspace_4_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_5           move_window_workspace_5_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_6           move_window_workspace_6_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_7           move_window_workspace_7_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_8           move_window_workspace_8_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_9           move_window_workspace_9_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>Delete                  del_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F10                     maximize_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F11                     fullscreen_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F12                     above_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F4                      close_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F6                      stick_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F7                      move_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F8                      resize_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F9                      hide_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>Insert                  add_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Shift>Tab              cycle_reverse_windows_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>space                   popup_menu_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>Tab                     cycle_windows_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Alt>d              show_desktop_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Alt>Down           down_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Alt>Left           left_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Alt>Right          right_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Alt>Up             up_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F1                  workspace_1_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F10                 workspace_10_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F11                 workspace_11_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F12                 workspace_12_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F2                  workspace_2_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F3                  workspace_3_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F4                  workspace_4_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F5                  workspace_5_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F6                  workspace_6_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F7                  workspace_7_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F8                  workspace_8_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F9                  workspace_9_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Shift><Alt>Left    move_window_left_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Shift><Alt>Right   move_window_right_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Shift><Alt>Up      move_window_up_key
/xfwm4/custom/Down                         down_key
/xfwm4/custom/Escape                       cancel_key
/xfwm4/custom/Left                         left_key
/xfwm4/custom/override                     true
/xfwm4/custom/Right                        right_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Shift><Alt>Page_Down        lower_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Shift><Alt>Page_Up          raise_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Super>Tab                   switch_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/Up                           up_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>Delete                 del_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F10                    maximize_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F11                    fullscreen_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F12                    above_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F4                     close_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F6                     stick_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F7                     move_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F8                     resize_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F9                     hide_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>Insert                 add_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt><Shift>Tab             cycle_reverse_windows_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>space                  popup_menu_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>Tab                    cycle_windows_key
/xfwm4/default/Down                        down_key
/xfwm4/default/Escape                      cancel_key
/xfwm4/default/Left                        left_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>d             show_desktop_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>Down          down_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>End           move_window_next_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>Home          move_window_prev_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_1          move_window_workspace_1_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_2          move_window_workspace_2_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_3          move_window_workspace_3_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_4          move_window_workspace_4_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_5          move_window_workspace_5_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_6          move_window_workspace_6_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_7          move_window_workspace_7_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_8          move_window_workspace_8_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_9          move_window_workspace_9_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>Left          left_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>Right         right_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>Up            up_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F1                 workspace_1_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F10                workspace_10_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F11                workspace_11_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F12                workspace_12_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F2                 workspace_2_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F3                 workspace_3_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F4                 workspace_4_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F5                 workspace_5_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F6                 workspace_6_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F7                 workspace_7_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F8                 workspace_8_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F9                 workspace_9_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Shift><Alt>Left   move_window_left_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Shift><Alt>Right  move_window_right_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Shift><Alt>Up     move_window_up_key
/xfwm4/default/Right                       right_key
/xfwm4/default/<Shift><Alt>Page_Down       lower_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Shift><Alt>Page_Up         raise_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Super>Tab                  switch_window_key
/xfwm4/default/Up                          up_key

[Jerry3904]

That is why we have an Xfce section in the Wiki, where the xfconf-query commands are listed:

https://mxlinux.org/wiki/xfce/xfce-comm ... 20settings