MX-18 beta 1 feedback

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Buck Fankers
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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#281 Post by Buck Fankers »

Coastie wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:13 pm Is now maybe the time to reconsider locating the panel to the bottom of the screen. Might look less strange to to new comers to MX
I disagree as new at MX. As a long term windows user I didn't like it at first, but after I learned explanation I decided to give it a try and I LOVE it now.

Maybe a suggestion, at install, one of msgs could be an explanation, why is panel on the side and another msg, how easy it is, to move it around.

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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#282 Post by Coastie »

Easy for you and me but maybe not for newbies.

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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#283 Post by Jerry3904 »

How to move the Panel is now the top item in the FAQ list at the top of the new Welcome screen. If they will not bother to look at the FAQs, never mind the Manual, then we can't help them.
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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#284 Post by Adrian »

Jerry3904 wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:57 pm How to move the Panel is now the top item in the FAQ list at the top of the new Welcome screen. If they will not bother to look at the FAQs, never mind the Manual, then we can't help them.
Heck, it's probably better to filter out such users...

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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#285 Post by Richard »

When they are ready, Linux is ready.
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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#286 Post by Buck Fankers »

Adrian wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:34 pm
Jerry3904 wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:57 pm How to move the Panel is now the top item in the FAQ list at the top of the new Welcome screen. If they will not bother to look at the FAQs, never mind the Manual, then we can't help them.
Heck, it's probably better to filter out such users...
LOL that's funny ;-)

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#287 Post by Gordon Cooper »

Maybe we are incorrect with the classification of newbies. To me, a newbie is a person who has zero or very little computer experience and therefore has formed no firm ideas about the placement of panels and other Linux norms.

Whereas, a person coming with experience with Macs, or the products of Redmond, could be classed as an immigrant ?
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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#288 Post by skidoo »

Adrian wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:34 pm
Jerry3904 wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:57 pm How to move the Panel is now the top item in the FAQ list at the top of the new Welcome screen. If they will not bother to look at the FAQs, never mind the Manual, then we can't help them.
Heck, it's probably better to filter out such users...
On the subject of "helping them", I advocate inclusion of the following during the build process
in order to prevent (assidentally) launching an elevated-permissions instance of the default web browser:

touch /root/.mozilla
ln /root/.mozilla /dev/null

FWIW, I sent the above as a pull request to antiX. It was merged & distributed. Then, without explanation, it was reverted a few months later.
Why it would EVER be desirable to launch a root-permissioned web browser?!?

n.b: Any reply citing the "Principle of least surprise" as the rationale for the status quo... yeah, that would be interpreted as a "cop-out".

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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#289 Post by dolphin_oracle »

I would like to mention here that firefox no longer launches as root.
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#290 Post by Mauser »

I see it so many times from people who are new to MX Linux make the mistake of not opening MX Tools and Tweak when they install MX Linux. To help those strangers or reviewers of MX Linux it would be a good idea to put in big capital letters in the welcome box when the first time MX Linux is started "OPEN MX TOOLS AND TWEAK".
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