MX-18 beta 1 feedback

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Adrian
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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#131 Post by Adrian »

entropyfoe wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:46 am Looks like Czech.

The C with the little "v" over it is Czech or some other similar Slavic language.
Also Greek the first entry, it's something that shows in Xfce Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts -> Arial

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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#132 Post by fehlix »

Adrian wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:42 pm
entropyfoe wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:46 am Looks like Czech.

The C with the little "v" over it is Czech or some other similar Slavic language.
Also Greek the first entry, it's something that shows in Xfce Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts -> Arial
Those are all part of the downloaded mscorefonts, the are not part of the debian system. Problay we need top look for a fixed version.

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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#133 Post by Stevo »

You can currently install the compatible Virtual Box 5.2.22 on the beta from the test repo, but we're moving it to main to eliminate the problem with MXPI.

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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#134 Post by dolphin_oracle »

fehlix wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:02 pm
Adrian wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:42 pm
entropyfoe wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:46 am Looks like Czech.

The C with the little "v" over it is Czech or some other similar Slavic language.
Also Greek the first entry, it's something that shows in Xfce Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts -> Arial
Those are all part of the downloaded mscorefonts, the are not part of the debian system. Problay we need top look for a fixed version.
possible. could be a build problem too.

but we also updated libfontconfig and libfreetype, which could also be related.

Is there a font cache rebuild function, and if so, does that clear up the problem?
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 4 - MX-23
FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.

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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#135 Post by Stevo »

dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:31 am
Fornhamfred wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:17 am Trying to install Teamviewer with mxpi gave the following output:

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Hit:1 http://security.debian.org stretch/updates InRelease
Hit:2 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stretch-updates InRelease
Ign:3 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease
Hit:4 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stretch Release
Hit:5 http://nl.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch stretch InRelease
Hit:6 http://nl.mxrepo.com/mx/repo stretch InRelease
Reading package lists...
--2018-12-04 16:09:44--  http://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_i386.deb
Resolving download.teamviewer.com (download.teamviewer.com)... 52.143.143.83
Connecting to download.teamviewer.com (download.teamviewer.com)|52.143.143.83|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location: https://dl.tvcdn.de/download/version_12x/teamviewer_12.0.137452_i386.deb [following]
--2018-12-04 16:09:44--  https://dl.tvcdn.de/download/version_12x/teamviewer_12.0.137452_i386.deb
Resolving dl.tvcdn.de (dl.tvcdn.de)... 2600:9000:201f:3200:c:b82f:7ac8:dfa1, 2600:9000:201f:2c00:c:b82f:7ac8:dfa1, 2600:9000:201f:5600:c:b82f:7ac8:dfa1, ...
Connecting to dl.tvcdn.de (dl.tvcdn.de)|2600:9000:201f:3200:c:b82f:7ac8:dfa1|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
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thanks we will check that out.
Probably the same problem as the Wine staging installs (teamviewer uses its own Wine), which is probably due to that wanting to install some i386 Mesa libraries with the dev repo disabled, so they aren't available.

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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#136 Post by j2mcgreg »

Everything works on an HP Pavillion P7-1019 including the NVidia video card. Here's the inxi output:

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CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium G620 bits: 64 type: MCP L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           Speed: 1596 MHz min/max: 1600/2600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1596 2: 1596 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 3] driver: nouveau v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: nouveau unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
           resolution: 1600x900~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: NVA8 v: 3.3 Mesa 18.2.6 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio 
           driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: NVIDIA High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-1-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Ralink RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: 0e:4a:44:67:38:cc 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: e0:69:95:da:27:94 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 960.39 GiB used: 27.93 GiB (2.9%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HDS721010CLA332 size: 931.51 GiB 
           ID-2: /dev/sdf type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DataTraveler 3.0 size: 28.88 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 913.89 GiB used: 4.63 GiB (0.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 32.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 36 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 170 Uptime: 6m Memory: 3.84 GiB used: 476.7 MiB (12.1%) Shell: bash 
           inxi: 3.0.25 

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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#137 Post by danielson »

Could having no swap partition but only / be the reason sleep mode not working for me?
Have decent SSD with 8Gs of RAM.

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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#138 Post by Adrian »

danielson wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:09 pm Could having no swap partition but only / be the reason sleep mode not working for me?
Have decent SSD with 8Gs of RAM.
I don't think so, hibernation needs swap, sleep uses RAM.

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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback

#139 Post by fehlix »

Stevo wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:20 pm
dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:31 am
Fornhamfred wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:17 am Trying to install Teamviewer with mxpi ..
thanks we will check that out.
Probably the same problem as the Wine staging installs (teamviewer uses its own Wine), which is probably due to that wanting to install some i386 Mesa libraries with the dev repo disabled, so they aren't available.
Yes,Teamviewer 12 installs and runs fine in "MX18_x64 Continuum March 14 2018"-upgraded from MX17.1 with having dev-repo enabled.

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Re: MX-18 beta 1 feedback-now working perfectly

#140 Post by entropyfoe »

Excellent ! After a fresh reboot uses 449M of memory. Samba working automatically OTB.
:happy:
I had the crash at idle again, so the boot code is needed.
I added manually to /etc/default/grub, the line rcu_nocbs=0-11
This completely stabilized my MX 17, so I am sure this will work again. [wish those kernel gurus would fix that]

Update-grub as root.
Reboot, looks good.

Now for nvidia-
I added the mx18 dev repo to synapic manually, once I figured out no space between MX and 18 !
Reload repos.
Use the MXPI nvidia installer. The only tricky part is which version to pick?
1. main 390.87-2-bpo9+1MX17+2 or
2. debian-backports 390.87-2-bpo9+1

I chose 1, as they seem the same, except one says MX17.
Rebooted, and voila, correct nvidia driver is loaded, and the nvidia card runs 5 degrees cooler !

Should I keep that MX18 dev repo enabled?

All that remains is the stability test, and based on past experience with the Ryzen, if this machine is still running tomorrow morning, stability is there, this time tomorrow, confirmed.

So this is pretty much equal to the MX 17.1 as far as functionality once stability is confirmed. Again, looks great, excellent beta quality, with some help from the experts :happy: [adrian, d_o, Richb, Stevo....] here, fixing the installer grub to root, describing how to get the nvidia, and add the grub line with no grub customizer - this is close to a keeper, certainly I will use as a daily driver, do more testing, until the next beta or RC.

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System:    Host: Ryzen Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 
           Distro: MX-18b1_x64 Continuum December 3  2018 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME X370-PRO v: Rev X.0x serial: <root required> 
           UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: 1201 date: 10/18/2017 
CPU:       Topology: 6-Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           Speed: 3590 MHz min/max: 2200/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1880 2: 1878 3: 1880 
           4: 1879 5: 1878 6: 1879 7: 1881 8: 1879 9: 1879 10: 1878 11: 1909 12: 2015 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GK208 [GeForce GT 710B] driver: nvidia v: 390.87 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: nvidia resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.87 
Audio:     Device-1: NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: AMD driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-1-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel I211 Gigabit Network driver: igb 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex:  
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.14 TiB used: 469.36 GiB (40.3%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 960 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB 
           ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 100.88 GiB used: 5.88 GiB (5.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 16.60 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 25.4 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 39 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 gpu: nvidia fan: 50% 
Info:      Processes: 260 Uptime: 7m Memory: 15.66 GiB used: 535.5 MiB (3.3%) Shell: bash 
           inxi: 3.0.25 
MX 23.5 on Asus PRIME X470-PRO
AMD Ryzen 3600X (12 threads @ 3.8 GHz)
32 Gig DDR4 3600 (Crucial CL 16)
Nvidia GeForce GT 710
Samsung 970 NVMe nvme0n1 P1-3=MX-23.5, P4=testing
Samsung 980 NVMe =1TB Data, plus 2TB WD =backups
on-board ethernet & sound

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