MX-18

[sdibaja]

Debian Stretch
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Kernel is Linux 4.9.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.130-2 (2018-10-27) x86_64
SUMMARY: CVE-2017-5753:OK CVE-2017-5715:OK CVE-2017-5754:OK CVE-2018-3640:OK CVE-2018-3639:OK CVE-2018-3615:OK CVE-2018-3620:OK CVE-2018-3646:OK

looks OK to me

[azrielle]

Why not just repackage 17.1_November as "18" (or maybe even "19") for the "greater Linux community" and MX newbies, and continue to field 17.1 monthly updates for the rest of us?

[Stevo]

Why not providing a newer kernel in a potential 17.2 release ? Kernel 4.15 looks outdated in terms of security.

We've been doing that for the past releases, so I don't see any reason why we would stop now.

Though the Debian stable kernel is great for security reasons, it's getting old and most new hardware is going to have trouble with it...even some 2018 hardware doesn't run quite right on stock MX 17.1 with its 4.15 kernel and 2016 vintage Mesa ( like the MSI GP63 I'm typing this on. But a newer kernel plus newer Mesa=near perfection...haven't even been any glitches at all with suspend or hibernation for quite a while)

We don't want users or reviewers to try using MX on their hot new laptop and not be able to boot or have a lot of issues.

[Mauser]

Or just put the newer kernels in the next update for MX-17.1 to make it easy. Will MX-18 come out in December like previous new versions of MX usually do?

[Pierre]

the thing is, that I'm intending to give a couple of PCs an re-birthing next month,
& ideally, that would be with MX-18.

but - that's starting to look more liker it'll be MX-17x instead.

that's not an issue in itself, as there seems to be no real reason to upgrade the current MX-17 series,
but I'm intending to do an upgrade anyway.

[dolphin_oracle]

let's clear up a little confusion

there will be a release.

it will be exactly the same whether its called MX-18 or MX-17.2, because we are supporting direct upgrades at least inside the same debian release (in this case stretch).

as the Bard says

What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other word would smell as sweet

[Richard]

IMHO,
it would smell sweeter as MX-18, since we'll soon be in 2019.
People prefer a One year old release over a Two year old version?
If you don't know what's behind them, the numbers have meaning.

It's becoming more prevalent on this forum with the new arrivals.

[Jerry3904]

This will be a discussion topic for the Devs in the near future, I am quite confident.

[entropyfoe]

MX-18 for a next release makes sense to me, especially if if has a new kernel. In a few months (in 2019) MX 18 will sound a lot more up to date than 17.2.

But MX-19, NO, I would reserve that for the next Debian stable (buster?). And that will be in 2019.

just my 0.02$ worth.

[dreamer]

IMHO,
it would smell sweeter as MX-18, since we'll soon be in 2019.
People prefer a One year old release over a Two year old version?
If you don't know what's behind them, the numbers have meaning.

It's becoming more prevalent on this forum with the new arrivals.

There is always a balance... Maybe the goal isn't users, but a functional distro that will attract the right people. I think "MX Horizon 19.01" would make sense for a Stretch based release in January 2019.
(All Stretch based releases being called Horizon with release date added)

A logical name is the most important I think so MX 17.2 also makes a lot of sense. I find MX 18 a bit confusing if it is Stretch based, but not more confusing than I am able to learn it in two seconds.

So in the end lots of good names to choose from!