MX-14 beta 2

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#211 Post by **BitJam** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:28 pm

golinuxgo wrote:Is there a list of that 'stuff' somewhere? Thanks!

You can get a list with the commands "sudo cat /etc/sudoers.d/antixers". It is possible that some of these are not required by MX.

Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:15 pm

Or simply don't use sudo.

#213 Post by **jdmeaux1952** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:18 pm

Referring back to my earlier post from today (Post # 329212 Re: MX-14 beta 2), I had to change out the motherboard on my JUNKBOX. Same model, but it has a bad timer so my P III is now running at 334 Mhz. It's so slow I could cook a turkey by the time it refreshes a page. (I told you it was a JUNKBOX made from old computer parts.

But Beta 2 is up and running with the TIME set okay. Now to seriously play around with it.

#214 Post by **BitJam** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:22 pm

anticapitalista wrote:Or simply don't use sudo.

I think golinuxgo wanted to know what might get broken if he removes sudo entirely.

#215 Post by **golinuxgo** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:53 pm

BitJam wrote:
anticapitalista wrote:Or simply don't use sudo.
I think golinuxgo wanted to know what might get broken if he removes sudo entirely.

Precisely. She, BTW (an an old one at that).

Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:06 pm

Why do you want to remove sudo?

#217 Post by **BitJam** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:07 pm

golinuxgo wrote:Precisely. She, BTW (an an old one at that).

Oops. Sorry about that. Please excuse me.

May I ask why you don't like sudo? From the developer's perspective it can be very handy to give normal users the ability to use certain commands without having to enter a password. Other routes have problems. For example, altering commands to be SUID will get nuked whenever a package containing the command gets upgraded.

BTW, other ways to see where sudo is used by MX is with these commands:

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grep sudo $(find / -name "*.desktop" 2> /dev/null) 2>/dev/null

grep sudo /usr/local/bin/*

Ninja'ed by anti.

#218 Post by **golinuxgo** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:39 pm

anticapitalista wrote:Why do you want to remove sudo?

Irrational prejudice because of my introduction to it with Ubuntu many years ago @2004-5. The thought of having anything reminiscent of 'buntu on my box makes my skin crawl and blood pressure go up (not really but it feels like that).

#219 Post by **uncle mark** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:46 pm

golinuxgo wrote:
anticapitalista wrote:Why do you want to remove sudo?
Irrational prejudice because of my introduction to it with Ubuntu many years ago @2004-5. The thought of having anything reminiscent of 'buntu on my box makes my skin crawl and blood pressure go up (not really but it feels like that).

I react the same way to Windows.

#220 Post by **golinuxgo** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:50 pm

BitJam wrote:
golinuxgo wrote:Precisely. She, BTW (an an old one at that).
Oops. Sorry about that. Please excuse me.

Not a problem at all so no need to apologize.

BitJam wrote:May I ask why you don't like sudo?

See above response to anti. But then there's the hard-core Debian disdain for sudo. Many mountains to climb. Maybe MX can reverse my well-ingrained aversion to sudo.

BitJam wrote:From the developer's perspective it can be very handy to give normal users the ability to use certain commands without having to enter a password. Other routes have problems. For example, altering commands to be SUID will get nuked whenever a package containing the command gets upgraded.

Probably hasn't been an issue for me because I'm used to doing it the old-fashioned, user-unfriendly way.

BitJam wrote:BTW, other ways to see where sudo is used by MX is with these commands:
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grep sudo $(find / -name "*.desktop" 2> /dev/null) 2>/dev/null

grep sudo /usr/local/bin/*

I'll check out the list when I get on that computer later tonight. Thanks.