Poll - Happy with KDE 4 or not?
????????? Push it how? It runs everything I need, why must one push it? Configures OK for me.beckwith wrote:Check release numbers. 8.5 does not ship with 4.4KDE, it's
4.3 with 8000+ bugs. If you push it a little it breaks. OK
if you are happy with what is shipped, but don't try and
configure it.
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And how many bugs are outstanding in 3.5, I will let you checkbeckwith wrote:Check release numbers. 8.5 does not ship with 4.4KDE, it's
4.3 with 8000+ bugs. If you push it a little it breaks. OK
if you are happy with what is shipped, but don't try and
configure it.
99% of which will never be fixed.
And for the record there are no bugs in debian 4.3 anymore,
because 4.3 it is not in the debian repo's, long gone.
As for breaking if you insist on using it as you would 3.5 it will. that is why it is called 4.3
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Zalman Z11 Plus ATX PC Tower, AMD FX 8350 Black Edition Vishera, 8 Core 4.4 GHz, Kingston HyperX FURY Red 16GB, Nvidia GT740 Graphics, Pioneer BDR-209EBK Writer, 2 x Seagate 1TB SSHD SATA Hybrid Hard Drives. ASUS VS278Q 27 inch HD Monitor
I've only found 2 or 3 bugs, which I easily worked around. Of course, I tend not to "push things" beyond their design limits. This policy applies to appliances, cars, and desktop environments.beckwith wrote:Check release numbers. 8.5 does not ship with 4.4KDE, it's
4.3 with 8000+ bugs. If you push it a little it breaks. OK
if you are happy with what is shipped, but don't try and
configure it.

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NVidia GeForce 6150 LE; 304.121 Display Driver
You didn't slow down because you're old; you're old because you slowed down.
I must admit that I haven't used KDE 4.* very much, but I don't think I could name 8,000 features, much less 8,000 bugs.
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1337 customization with no Bear sweat
Yo, Ace!
You know I can't resist a poll!
I'm on record as being a guy who seriously discussed making antiX his main distro rather than go KDE4. Anybody who doesn't know that already, please be aware.
Danum, was the guy who spun me right 'round with his Canteras releases. Then Warren Woodford put his hand on my shoulder and stopped me from spinning any further than 180 degrees.
Prior to 4.3, the new KDE was "not ready for prime time" IMO. Yes, and 4.3 needs a little loving care to be the kind of girl (guy) you want to take home to meet Mom.
Know that Danum & WW are master headmasters in the KDE Charm School.
Configurable? Here's my MSI portable's version of Mepis 8.5, which has been continuously updated since it was installed from the Alpha release LiveCD.
Item 1 was that with a 1366x768 widescreen format, I needed vertical space. So the "panel" plasmoid went further left than anticapitalista. (No dig intended, anti! You know yer "my man!" I just can't resist hamming up a forum post.) Then I installed and configured Conky, since I consider that utility "a must" on a laptop.
Point is, Mepis 8.5 with KDE4.3 lets me do this:

Got my wireless working with no sweat, got Quanta installed with a little pinning of packages, doing the MC repo version of GIMP for grafix, getting (slowly!) some work done today revising mepis.org, all on "my" Mep 8.5 on this machine. . .
I'm not denying that somebody might be having problems with KDE4.3 or Mepis 8.5.
But it ain't this Bear.
You know I can't resist a poll!
I'm on record as being a guy who seriously discussed making antiX his main distro rather than go KDE4. Anybody who doesn't know that already, please be aware.
Danum, was the guy who spun me right 'round with his Canteras releases. Then Warren Woodford put his hand on my shoulder and stopped me from spinning any further than 180 degrees.
Prior to 4.3, the new KDE was "not ready for prime time" IMO. Yes, and 4.3 needs a little loving care to be the kind of girl (guy) you want to take home to meet Mom.
Know that Danum & WW are master headmasters in the KDE Charm School.
Configurable? Here's my MSI portable's version of Mepis 8.5, which has been continuously updated since it was installed from the Alpha release LiveCD.
Item 1 was that with a 1366x768 widescreen format, I needed vertical space. So the "panel" plasmoid went further left than anticapitalista. (No dig intended, anti! You know yer "my man!" I just can't resist hamming up a forum post.) Then I installed and configured Conky, since I consider that utility "a must" on a laptop.
Point is, Mepis 8.5 with KDE4.3 lets me do this:

Got my wireless working with no sweat, got Quanta installed with a little pinning of packages, doing the MC repo version of GIMP for grafix, getting (slowly!) some work done today revising mepis.org, all on "my" Mep 8.5 on this machine. . .
I'm not denying that somebody might be having problems with KDE4.3 or Mepis 8.5.
But it ain't this Bear.
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I like it a lot
I was not quite as reluctant as Rich; I got an earlier start, though not quite as early as Danum. On some non-Debian systems, I got a REALLY early look at KDE 4.0, and it was poor enough not to consider very seriously. When KDE 4.1 came out, it was more functional, enough to use for some stuff. I used it on and off with Kubuntu, but stuck to legacy KDE.richb wrote:I am very happy with MEPIS 8.5 and KDE 4.4. I was skeptical when KDE4 was first released. In fact I disliked it. As more releases came out I became a convert. And Warren has done a great job integrating KDE4 with stable Debian, not an easy task. I am looking forward with great anticipation to Mepis 10.
When KDE 4.2.2 became available in Debian Sid, I gave it a whirl. For the most part it was good, but I did find and report some defects, which I am happy to say were fixed by KDE 4.2.4, also in Debian Sid. By that time, I was a regular KDE user in Debian Sid, plus I used some of the really good KDE 4.2 respins provided by Danum.
So by the time we got KDE 4 in SimplyMEPIS, I was looking forward to it and I can say that it is one of the smoothest, unobtrusive KDE implementations I've used, so it gets my endorsement.
Brian Masinick
I use both SimplyMEPIS and antiX
I use both SimplyMEPIS and antiX