mx23 xfce 2: scratchy sound of .wav file after wine is installed [Solved]

[krism3]

let me try again.
No prob w/o wine installed on system. but of course I cannot run these games (except via vbox).

When I add wine (8.12) to MX I get a bit of static preceding playing of a .wav file. This is worse when that same file is used in a wine game. This degrades over time.

Just installed Mint 21.2 (gaa) and when I add wine(6.0.3), I detect no static when playing a .wav file, but DO in a wine game.

In MX it helps to uninstall pipewire-pulse. In another test, uninstalling it and re-installing it also helps.
I have no idea how to find out what is actually wrong (with pulseaudio), or how to correct it.

The games did play fine in oracle vbox in one test, but I would prefer to have it executable straight from the desktop (saves starting win in vbox).

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System:
  Kernel: 6.4.9-1-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable hpet=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1
    BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.4.9-1-liquorix-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23_ahs_x64 Libretto July 31  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20T4002KUS v: ThinkPad P15s Gen 1
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: 20T4002KUS v: SDK0J40697 WIN serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO
    v: N2XET38W (1.28 ) date: 01/18/2023
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 52.0 Wh (98.3%) condition: 52.9/57.0 Wh (92.8%) volts: 12.8 min: 11.5
    model: SMP 5B10W13914 type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: not charging cycles: 27
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech M510 serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored)
    rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i7-10510U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Comet/Whiskey Lake note: check
    gen: core 10 level: v3 note: check built: 2018 process: Intel 14nm family: 6 model-id: 0x8E (142)
    stepping: 0xC (12) microcode: 0xF8
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache: L1: 256 KiB
    desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 8 MiB desc: 1x8 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 639 high: 775 min/max: 400/2301 boost: enabled scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 700 2: 700 3: 706 4: 400 5: 703 6: 775 7: 400 8: 729 bogomips: 36799
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling mitigation: Microcode
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: retbleed mitigation: Enhanced IBRS
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 status: Vulnerable: eIBRS with unprivileged eBPF
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel CometLake-U GT2 [UHD Graphics] vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel
    arch: Gen-9.5 process: Intel 14nm built: 2016-20 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2,
    HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:9b41 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP108GLM [Quadro P520] vendor: Lenovo driver: N/A alternate: nouveau
    non-free: 530.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-03) arch: Pascal code: GP10x process: TSMC 16nm
    built: 2016-21 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 4 bus-ID: 2d:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1d34
    class-ID: 0302
  Device-3: Chicony Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-8:7 chip-ID: 04f2:b6d0
    class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: BOE Display 0x08d8 built: 2019 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 142
    gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (CML GT2) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Comet Lake PCH-LP cAVS vendor: Lenovo driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-cnl
    alternate: snd_hda_intel,snd_sof_pci_intel_cnl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:02c8 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.4.9-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Comet Lake PCH-LP CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl bus-ID: 00:14.3
    chip-ID: 8086:02f0 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Ethernet I219-V vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: kernel port: N/A
    bus-ID: 00:1f.6 chip-ID: 8086:0d4f class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX201 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-10:10 chip-ID: 8087:0026
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 3.0 lmp-v: 5.2
    sub-v: 2090 hci-v: 5.2 rev: 2090
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
    service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio, telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.36 TiB used: 764.69 GiB (54.7%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 2B2QEXM7 temp: 43.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 type: USB model: SSK SSK Storage size: 931.51 GiB block-size:
    physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 0212 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 68.55 GiB size: 66.92 GiB (97.63%) used: 33.42 GiB (49.9%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p8 maj-min: 259:8
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 100 MiB size: 96 MiB (96.00%) used: 32.5 MiB (33.9%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 4.66 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6
    maj-min: 259:6
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 42.0 C pch: 42.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): fan-1: 3680
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2376 libs: 1295 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 291 Uptime: 27m wakeups: 2302 Memory: 15.29 GiB used: 2.15 GiB (14.0%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

[CharlesV]

Possibly something in one of these tree tweaks?
https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questi ... am-edition

Also this one off reddit?
In /etc/pulse/daemon.conf set the following:

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default-sample-rate = 48000
alternate-sample-rate = 44100
default-fragments = 2

And, being that it worked "fine in Vbox" .. I have to believe that it is a timing issue.

VBox would both slow it down as well as change HOW the sound is processed... So there are a few clues there. Timing, different sounds drivers come to mind.

[krism3]

Possibly something in one of these tree tweaks?
https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questi ... am-edition

Also this one off reddit?
In /etc/pulse/daemon.conf set the following:

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default-sample-rate = 48000
alternate-sample-rate = 44100
default-fragments = 2

And, being that it worked "fine in Vbox" .. I have to believe that it is a timing issue.

VBox would both slow it down as well as change HOW the sound is processed... So there are a few clues there. Timing, different sounds drivers come to mind.

Thanks1 I will look at those in the next few days. Up on win at the moment as I just want to "get something done". Also noticed a lot of lagginess in sound and video on vbox so that's not really a solution. I think this prob has been around forever. trick is to find something that works sufficiently well! I have seen talk about those but not tried them yet.

Again, thanks!
later!

[CharlesV]

Your welcome and hope something helps :-)

[krism3]

remember, pulseaudio supposedly isn't installed per MX Package Installer...

Change the pulseaudio config file /etc/pulse/default.pa, changing this line:

file doesn't exist.

In /etc/pulse/daemon.conf set the following:

file doesn't exist.

env PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=60 env WINEPREFIX=/location/of/prefix WINE game.exe
made it worse, 30 wasn't bad at all. I will play with that over subsequent boots and report back.

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[krism3]

I came home after letting it sit for a while in sleep mode and it sounded different - more scratchy, so adjusted up to 80.

[krism3]

This post has been redone.

At some point in the process, the "normal" sound of a .wav played may change - no idea why. I don't think it affects the following. For example, mine used to be scratchy. Then it changed to playing quickly twice. That was true before, or after, I had installed pulseaudio. No idea why.

Okay, so after you install wine, pulse audio is fluky. - .wav files don't play correctly.

prep for mod:
1) I took the latency fix off from above suggestion from the command line.
2) I am finally correctly backed up so I am much less likely to lose ground if I do a ssd restore w/o thinking.I wasted a lot of time redo-ing my log and figuring out where I was. You DO want a good clean easy image before you start as you may want to re-do and re-test...

mod:
3) I added pulseaudio with "also install recommended packages".

3a) in files, go to /etc/pulse and right click on daemon.conf and "send" and choose "desktop" . This will allow you to very easily edit this file, which you will need to.

Test and see what you have - I basically had no change at this point - still weird .wav play sound.

4)Assuming .wav is bad, click on your desktop link and add
default-fragments = 1
to the bottom of the file, click save (you will have to enter your password), and close
reboot
test.wav should be okay now but there is no vol control and nothing else will play.
Now, on the fly, you can edit that file and change it back to 4 and save it (without having to reboot) and you will have a volume control and full playback sound, except, of course .wav will sound wonky like it did before you modified default-fragments.

default-fragments = 2 or 3 or 4 all produce the same normal playback result. Changing the frequencies was unnecessary/changed nothing for my situation.

Basically, linux, with wine, is a pulseaudio problematic situation. - basic design flaw somewhere - been there forever.

In this solution you have to keep changing back and forth depending on what you are doing.

marked solved. YMMV of course as all situations are different.

[krism3]

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