Hi all
Noticed suspend on mx19 kde sometime dosnt work or takes a long time to work after laptop lid is closed. Sometimes, I have to reopen and close the lid for the suspend to kick in. Even doing that seems flakey.. all settings in power manager look normal.
Sony vaio i3 Intel gpu
Suspend dosnt seem to even work with mx21 kde?
I dare say it's a kde issue
Ps. Also noticed shutting down takes awhile, as though it's waiting for some service to end, rather annoying ... help!
[SOLVED] suspend flakey [Solved]
[SOLVED] suspend flakey
Last edited by ibm450 on Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: suspend flakey
@ibm450 Need to post your Quick System Info please.
Just wasted time mate looking at your HP desktop details.
Have you tried using the Suspend icon under the power menu on the Application Menu?
See if that makes any difference.
Just shooting from the hip on this one with installing;
acpi-support it should add/pull/install acpi-support-base as well.
Sony vaio's can be cranky machines.
Cheers NH
Just wasted time mate looking at your HP desktop details.
Have you tried using the Suspend icon under the power menu on the Application Menu?
See if that makes any difference.
Just shooting from the hip on this one with installing;
acpi-support it should add/pull/install acpi-support-base as well.
Sony vaio's can be cranky machines.
Cheers NH
Some bugs are beauts...
Re: suspend flakey
@Nix Hard yes those 2 services were not installed.
After installing the 2 modules, it Made no difference, and still very to slow
to suspend when laptop lid is closed.
I tried other distros on the drive ubuntu/gnome/cinnamon, w10 & w11 inclusive and they all instantly suspend when lid is shut.
Interestingly, kubuntu also hangs or takes ages to suspend: identically like mx 19 & 21.
I conclude it's an kde issue.
Could it be some kill monitor service issue that I could rename so it kills that service?
After installing the 2 modules, it Made no difference, and still very to slow

I tried other distros on the drive ubuntu/gnome/cinnamon, w10 & w11 inclusive and they all instantly suspend when lid is shut.
Interestingly, kubuntu also hangs or takes ages to suspend: identically like mx 19 & 21.
I conclude it's an kde issue.
Could it be some kill monitor service issue that I could rename so it kills that service?
Last edited by ibm450 on Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: suspend flakey
Nix Hard wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:46 am @ibm450 Need to post your Quick System Info please.
Have you tried using the Suspend icon under the power menu on the Application Menu?
See if that makes any difference.
Some bugs are beauts...
Re: suspend flakey
@Nix Hard
yes, when icon or when power button is set to suspend, all works ok bar the closing of the lid.
i also have the same issue with kubuntu.
suspend via closing of the lid with mint, ubuntu, w10 and w11 work instantly.
strange thing is, now suspend via closing the lappy lid doesn't work under mx 21 xfce either?
yes, when icon or when power button is set to suspend, all works ok bar the closing of the lid.
i also have the same issue with kubuntu.
suspend via closing of the lid with mint, ubuntu, w10 and w11 work instantly.
strange thing is, now suspend via closing the lappy lid doesn't work under mx 21 xfce either?
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Re: suspend flakey
Linux mx21 5.10.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.46-5 (2021-09-23) x86_64 GNU/Linux
same issue with mx 21 kernel, so i doubt its the liquorix kernel
moderator: unnecessary font adjustments removed
Re: suspend flakey
Yes, but this time it's also Xfce .. And you say suspend works fine with all other ways but the lid (if I've understood correctly).
Just on this occasion : my 19.4 snapshot (32 bit) also doesn't suspend (no ways, even not with sudo pm-suspend or s2ram) with 5.10.0-8 kernel on 64bit laptop .. (Other than that everything's fine). There were no such issue with any other kernels, 4.19, 4.9 or even 5.2 etc.. So, (just maybe) there's something with 5.10 +
(This may also be related to being an Nvidia-card machine, though there were no problems with other kernels)...
Meanwhile, have you tried 4.9 antiX from Popular Apps in MX Package Installer? (In case you decide to try, you'll find it in Advanced Options in Grub Menu after installation). Those dual core / older machines like that so much.
Just on this occasion : my 19.4 snapshot (32 bit) also doesn't suspend (no ways, even not with sudo pm-suspend or s2ram) with 5.10.0-8 kernel on 64bit laptop .. (Other than that everything's fine). There were no such issue with any other kernels, 4.19, 4.9 or even 5.2 etc.. So, (just maybe) there's something with 5.10 +
(This may also be related to being an Nvidia-card machine, though there were no problems with other kernels)...
Meanwhile, have you tried 4.9 antiX from Popular Apps in MX Package Installer? (In case you decide to try, you'll find it in Advanced Options in Grub Menu after installation). Those dual core / older machines like that so much.
[SOLVED] Re: suspend flakey [Solved]
Hi all
Issue resolved by selecting "systemd" from advanced option in the grub menu upon boot.
Both mx19 and mx21 (kde & xfce) suspend immediately when lid is closed as expected.
I retract my conclusions that it was a kde bug and acpi issue.
Thanks
Issue resolved by selecting "systemd" from advanced option in the grub menu upon boot.
Both mx19 and mx21 (kde & xfce) suspend immediately when lid is closed as expected.
I retract my conclusions that it was a kde bug and acpi issue.
Thanks