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The question is, can be completely free of systemd and reliable the following basic?
Browser
Sound server
Network Manager
If not, then this discussion is useless.

In the rapidly evolving times we live in, which init will prevail depends on how compatible it will be with artificial intelligence, because artificial intelligence will be the one that will manage and maintain operating systems in the future!

I disagree with this point.
The vast majority of software is init agnostic - it simply does not care what init is running.
The problem is that Debian packagers add systemd/libsystemd0 as a hard dependency even if the app does not require it at all

Since you are one of last Mohicans that fight ...

The systemd will be more and more unavoidable, which also means that in the future AI by itself will run it, a small example which still needs humans: https://medium.com/@david.franko1998/au ... 0a143c31e5

If another kernel does not help, boot from systemd and check!

2: deb http://nl.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
Processes: 277 Uptime: 5m wakeups: 1 Memory: 21.43 GiB used: 1.48 GiB (6.9%) Init: SysVinit

It still takes hours for me to do it the Debian way, so I don't see much, if any, advantage over saving my /home along with the custom shortcut scripts I have set up in /usr/local/bin when installing a new MX ISO over the old . My current MX 23 /home dates back to MX 17.

Is this the official way ...

Eadwine Rose wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:57 pm Why should we be more competitive? That is not the goal of MX. It's not a race after all :)

As an honest person, I always say my opinion, which I know sometimes it is not nice! The end Linux user is the one that makes the choice, and distrowatch is an indication!

Have you ever tried to do a Debian full upgrade from one release to another?
I'm sure the vast majority of new (Debian desktop) users haven't done so since that Chapter 4 Upgrades from Debian 11 (bullseye) is way beyond most users comprehension.

@anticapitalista , you have proved a very good ...

Have you tried the steps as outlined *by the developers* here ?

https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/upgrading-from-mx-21-to-mx-23-without-reinstalling/

The steps are listed and show the path and how to.

Not yet, and don't ask me why! But the unofficial path means not official, which means not ...

I dont think you would need to be a developer really, however the lack of a second computer could be a problem. If your main computer is strong enough, then a Virtual Machine would be where I would work anyway.

There are many parts to this type of upgrade, but the starting point could be what ...